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What would you do - 200 years ago
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<blockquote data-quote="Solidarity413" data-source="post: 549752" data-attributes="member: 21984"><p><strong>Re: what would you do</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I get that to some people it represents "independence" But to the rest of us it just shows you're a racist. State rights may prevail for speed limits but when peoples lives are being threatened, as in the case of slavery, the nation steps in and stops it. You are eluding to the fact that Africans turned other Africans in for slavery, which I'm sure is what happened in some cases. Have you ever asked yourself what you would do in that scenario? I bet you'd put your tail between your legs and point to your brother/sister too. And if you believe that <strong>all</strong> slaves got here because Africans turned them in you're grossly misinformed. </p><p></p><p>There were no 'white' slaves, this is a silly concept. During this time the 'white' identity was still be constructed so the people you speak of being servants were mostly Irish. And at the time the Irish were not white,. The government in fact did everything they could to get the chruch back in Ireland to say they support slavery but at the time the chruch denied. However the Irish weren't slaves, they still had freedom they were just tied to master for X amount of time. They weren't beat if they could read, or their wives weren't raped in front of them. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The stars and bars may not have been associated with pro-slavery positions before the war, I'll take your word on it. However when you back such a huge issue it then becomes a defining characteristic of the symbol. It seems like a cop-out to wave the flag really. There is no other reason. There's plenty of symbols out there that represent individual rights, why use the one that has such a stained story?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Solidarity413, post: 549752, member: 21984"] [b]Re: what would you do[/b] I get that to some people it represents "independence" But to the rest of us it just shows you're a racist. State rights may prevail for speed limits but when peoples lives are being threatened, as in the case of slavery, the nation steps in and stops it. You are eluding to the fact that Africans turned other Africans in for slavery, which I'm sure is what happened in some cases. Have you ever asked yourself what you would do in that scenario? I bet you'd put your tail between your legs and point to your brother/sister too. And if you believe that [B]all[/B] slaves got here because Africans turned them in you're grossly misinformed. There were no 'white' slaves, this is a silly concept. During this time the 'white' identity was still be constructed so the people you speak of being servants were mostly Irish. And at the time the Irish were not white,. The government in fact did everything they could to get the chruch back in Ireland to say they support slavery but at the time the chruch denied. However the Irish weren't slaves, they still had freedom they were just tied to master for X amount of time. They weren't beat if they could read, or their wives weren't raped in front of them. The stars and bars may not have been associated with pro-slavery positions before the war, I'll take your word on it. However when you back such a huge issue it then becomes a defining characteristic of the symbol. It seems like a cop-out to wave the flag really. There is no other reason. There's plenty of symbols out there that represent individual rights, why use the one that has such a stained story? [/QUOTE]
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