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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1178175" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>..."There's no proof whatsoever that Hoffa/Hall went into hiding"...</p><p></p><p>Really? almost 4 weeks now, and Hoffa/Hall havent gathered all the principle officers of the locals together to see why the members rejected the contract. No statements. No press releases. No "rallies" by K. Hall.</p><p></p><p>They have IN FACT gone into hiding "per se" by sheer absence. But why?</p><p></p><p>Well, thats a simple answer. The talk about this contract was HIGHER than ever before in a negotiation year. The members were outraged all across this country and the more they talked, the less they liked this contract, unless of course if you were in either 407 or cleveland, the two crappiest places on earth.</p><p></p><p>There, the contract was lollypops and gumdrops, but to the rest of america, this contract was and still is a "JOKE" and an insult to all the hard working teamsters everywhere.</p><p></p><p>Hoffa/Hall are merely using a tactic ( the passage of time) to deflate the conversation about the contract and the next time around, each local wont hit the 2/3 majority needed to count. </p><p></p><p>The less people talk about something, the less interest there is about it. Pretty simple stuff.</p><p></p><p>IN the begining of this year, Hall was running around giving rah rah speeches to all states, and yet, where is he today? Has he done a "mic" check in the last 4 weeks? answer? NO.</p><p></p><p>They "hope" we lose interest and simply vote yes on the same P.O.S. offer they presented to us the first time, if not, then they hope not enough people vote and they simply ratify the contract for us and we are stuck with it.</p><p></p><p>Our local officers are not very concerned either with the members concerns. </p><p></p><p>Depending on what local you are from, you still havent had a meeting to discuss this contract, yet people like 407 and Skunk will tell you that Hoffa/Hall are doing everything possible for the members..</p><p></p><p>People may not like TDU for whatever reason, but I guarantee you, that this contract fiasco is only going to supercharge TDU in the coming months for the members.</p><p></p><p>People who have avoided TDU may just be angry enough with Hoffa/Hall to give TDU another chance if they play their cards right and choose the right people.</p><p></p><p>Time will tell how much damage Hoffa/Hall have done to themselves.</p><p></p><p>For us in the west, Both men are toast. </p><p></p><p>Jr. dad is buried somewhere because of his politics and Jr is burying himself and wont need anyones help. He dug a hole, and his absence is the equivalent of pulling in the dirt behind him.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1178175, member: 17969"] ..."There's no proof whatsoever that Hoffa/Hall went into hiding"... Really? almost 4 weeks now, and Hoffa/Hall havent gathered all the principle officers of the locals together to see why the members rejected the contract. No statements. No press releases. No "rallies" by K. Hall. They have IN FACT gone into hiding "per se" by sheer absence. But why? Well, thats a simple answer. The talk about this contract was HIGHER than ever before in a negotiation year. The members were outraged all across this country and the more they talked, the less they liked this contract, unless of course if you were in either 407 or cleveland, the two crappiest places on earth. There, the contract was lollypops and gumdrops, but to the rest of america, this contract was and still is a "JOKE" and an insult to all the hard working teamsters everywhere. Hoffa/Hall are merely using a tactic ( the passage of time) to deflate the conversation about the contract and the next time around, each local wont hit the 2/3 majority needed to count. The less people talk about something, the less interest there is about it. Pretty simple stuff. IN the begining of this year, Hall was running around giving rah rah speeches to all states, and yet, where is he today? Has he done a "mic" check in the last 4 weeks? answer? NO. They "hope" we lose interest and simply vote yes on the same P.O.S. offer they presented to us the first time, if not, then they hope not enough people vote and they simply ratify the contract for us and we are stuck with it. Our local officers are not very concerned either with the members concerns. Depending on what local you are from, you still havent had a meeting to discuss this contract, yet people like 407 and Skunk will tell you that Hoffa/Hall are doing everything possible for the members.. People may not like TDU for whatever reason, but I guarantee you, that this contract fiasco is only going to supercharge TDU in the coming months for the members. People who have avoided TDU may just be angry enough with Hoffa/Hall to give TDU another chance if they play their cards right and choose the right people. Time will tell how much damage Hoffa/Hall have done to themselves. For us in the west, Both men are toast. Jr. dad is buried somewhere because of his politics and Jr is burying himself and wont need anyones help. He dug a hole, and his absence is the equivalent of pulling in the dirt behind him. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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