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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 733822" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>I haven't looked at the numbers but I have wondered about that. Where do actual numbers stand from past elections in Kentcky? Looking at the surprising large number of retirements from bothsides of the isle and rejection of incumbents (Bennett and Spector for example) Kentucky may have been more about a larger rejection of McConnell and the Washington GOP than anything else.</p><p></p><p>A much greater concern for the beltway gangsters is a growing trend of cooperation and understanding amongst a principled core on both sides of the political spectrum. Progressive/liberal icon Robert Scheer found reason to <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/whos_afraid_of_rand_paul_20100518/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">celebrate </span></a>Rand Paul's victory <a href="http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/live_chat_robert_scheer_on_rand_paul_20100520/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">(and more Q & A)</span></a> not that he completely agrees with the agenda but that he knows like many paleo-cons and minarchist libertarians that he has been betrayed by his side of the political isle elite who claim to represent his interests. But like Scheer, there are <a href="http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2010/04/a-connecticut-yankee-in-king-cotton%e2%80%99s-court/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">libertarians</span> </a>who have looked across the supposed isle and found common cause. Scheer BTW doesn't believe the dems will lose Congress and that may prove true but more important than turn over Congress from one set of pukes to another is to turn out incumbents (especially in the primaries) which IMO would be a much greater message sent.</p><p></p><p>This past weekend over a net conversation, Daniel McCarthy known for his continuing contributions to the paleo-con "The American Conservative" informed Sheldon Richman of <a href="http://www.thefreemanonline.org/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">"The Freeman"</span></a> and others of us that he is as we speak doing background for an article on Saul Alinsky and it's by no means an attack piece. Daniel has met some folks that knew Alinsky well and he's getting access to numerous private writtings as he's amazed at what he's learning. Sure there are differences but turns out Saul opposed the War on Poverty <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Regulating-Poor-Functions-Public-Welfare/dp/0679745165/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274639298&sr=8-1#reader_0679745165" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">(he understood what is actually is and not in the myth painted by the State)</span></a> and believed in localist control which has a very anti-federalist ring to it. I have to admit we all enjoyed a brief comedy hour on the net while discusiing the reaction of the GOP motormouths to a paleo-con article showing a positive side of Alinsky and his ideas on small, localist gov't. Playboy magazine just before Alinsky's death in 72' did a series of interviews with Alinsky and they called him a modern day Thomas Paine and after reading I was surprised in that I had to concur in several areas.</p><p></p><p>Outside of "Big State" politics, a larger and growing conversation is taking place that rejects big state politics and looks to small and localism for ideas and how to move forward. <a href="http://unitedfrontnoteaparty.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/would-a-left-right-coalition-revive-the-antiwar-movement/" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">These conversations</span></a> tend to be non-partisan and true transparency where all ideas and thoughts are out on the table in the open sunlight for all to see. Many even become <a href="http://c4ss.org/content/2532" target="_blank"><span style="color: red">self reflective</span></a> and thus more principled and it's at the principle level that non-partisanship takes place and agreements on solutions begin to emerge. People still hold to differences but positive ground is gained and people tend to move forward in a positive way. This is what more than anything else scares the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> out of bothsides of the power broker state and this is a good thing IMO.</p><p></p><p><img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 733822, member: 2189"] I haven't looked at the numbers but I have wondered about that. Where do actual numbers stand from past elections in Kentcky? Looking at the surprising large number of retirements from bothsides of the isle and rejection of incumbents (Bennett and Spector for example) Kentucky may have been more about a larger rejection of McConnell and the Washington GOP than anything else. A much greater concern for the beltway gangsters is a growing trend of cooperation and understanding amongst a principled core on both sides of the political spectrum. Progressive/liberal icon Robert Scheer found reason to [URL='http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/whos_afraid_of_rand_paul_20100518/'][COLOR=red]celebrate [/COLOR][/URL]Rand Paul's victory [URL='http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/live_chat_robert_scheer_on_rand_paul_20100520/'][COLOR=red](and more Q & A)[/COLOR][/URL] not that he completely agrees with the agenda but that he knows like many paleo-cons and minarchist libertarians that he has been betrayed by his side of the political isle elite who claim to represent his interests. But like Scheer, there are [URL='http://www.frontporchrepublic.com/2010/04/a-connecticut-yankee-in-king-cotton%e2%80%99s-court/'][COLOR=red]libertarians[/COLOR] [/URL]who have looked across the supposed isle and found common cause. Scheer BTW doesn't believe the dems will lose Congress and that may prove true but more important than turn over Congress from one set of pukes to another is to turn out incumbents (especially in the primaries) which IMO would be a much greater message sent. This past weekend over a net conversation, Daniel McCarthy known for his continuing contributions to the paleo-con "The American Conservative" informed Sheldon Richman of [URL='http://www.thefreemanonline.org/'][COLOR=red]"The Freeman"[/COLOR][/URL] and others of us that he is as we speak doing background for an article on Saul Alinsky and it's by no means an attack piece. Daniel has met some folks that knew Alinsky well and he's getting access to numerous private writtings as he's amazed at what he's learning. Sure there are differences but turns out Saul opposed the War on Poverty [URL='http://www.amazon.com/Regulating-Poor-Functions-Public-Welfare/dp/0679745165/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1274639298&sr=8-1#reader_0679745165'][COLOR=red](he understood what is actually is and not in the myth painted by the State)[/COLOR][/URL] and believed in localist control which has a very anti-federalist ring to it. I have to admit we all enjoyed a brief comedy hour on the net while discusiing the reaction of the GOP motormouths to a paleo-con article showing a positive side of Alinsky and his ideas on small, localist gov't. Playboy magazine just before Alinsky's death in 72' did a series of interviews with Alinsky and they called him a modern day Thomas Paine and after reading I was surprised in that I had to concur in several areas. Outside of "Big State" politics, a larger and growing conversation is taking place that rejects big state politics and looks to small and localism for ideas and how to move forward. [URL='http://unitedfrontnoteaparty.wordpress.com/2010/05/11/would-a-left-right-coalition-revive-the-antiwar-movement/'][COLOR=red]These conversations[/COLOR][/URL] tend to be non-partisan and true transparency where all ideas and thoughts are out on the table in the open sunlight for all to see. Many even become [URL='http://c4ss.org/content/2532'][COLOR=red]self reflective[/COLOR][/URL] and thus more principled and it's at the principle level that non-partisanship takes place and agreements on solutions begin to emerge. People still hold to differences but positive ground is gained and people tend to move forward in a positive way. This is what more than anything else scares the :censored: out of bothsides of the power broker state and this is a good thing IMO. :peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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