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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 332048" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p><strong>Better Left than Right???</strong></p><p></p><p><strong>Far right</strong>, <strong>extreme right</strong>, <strong>ultra-right</strong>, or <strong>radical right</strong> are terms used to discuss the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualitative_research" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">qualitative</span></u></a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_research" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">quantitative</span></u></a> position a group or person occupies within a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">political spectrum</span></u></a>.</p><p>The terms <em>far right</em> and <em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">far left</span></u></a></em> are often used to imply that someone is an <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">extremist</span></u></a>. The terms are used by many political commentators to discuss political groups, movements, and political parties that are difficult to classify within conventional <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Right-wing politics</span></u></a>. The terms <em>extreme right</em> or <em>ultra right</em> are used by some scholars to discuss only those right-wing political groups that step outside the boundaries of traditional electoral politics. This generally includes the revolutionary right, militant racial supremacists and religious extremists, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">fascists</span></u></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Fascism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">neo-fascists</span></u></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Nazis</span></u></a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">neo-Nazis</span></u></a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-fasc-0" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[1]</span></u></a> In this usage, the terms are distinct from other forms of right-wing politics such as the less-militant sectors of the far right, right-wing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">populists</span></u></a> and the more traditional <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservativism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">conservatives</span></u></a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-1" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[2]</span></u></a></p><p> </p><p></p><p>The term <em>far right</em> has been used by scholars in at least three somewhat conflicting ways:<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-2" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[3]</span></u></a> <ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">Reform-oriented right-wing movements or rightist factions of conservative political parties. These are sometimes called the dissident right, activist right, or right-wing populism. They are positioned between traditional conservatives and the extreme right. These participants are found outside mainstream electoral politics, but they generally produce a movement of reform rather than revolution.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Neo-fascists</span></u></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">neo-Nazis</span></u></a> are usually labeled extreme right or ultra right. Such groups are generally revolutionary in character rather than reformist. Neo-Nazi and Neo-fascist literally means "new Nazi" and "new fascist", implying that they are from the period following <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">World War II</span></u></a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">The whole range of right-wing politics, from the borders of conservatism out to the far reaches of the extreme right.</li> </ol><p>These categories are not universally accepted, and other uses exist, making comparative use of the term complicated.</p><p> </p><p>In the 2000s, the term <em>far right</em> is usually applied to those who support <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">authoritarianism</span></u></a> and policies that are considered <em>right</em> rather than <em>left</em>. In regions and nations that have no recent history of monarchy, such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Central America</span></u></a> (discounting the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Pre-Columbian</span></u></a> era), <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Switzerland</span></u></a>, and the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">United States</span></u></a>, far-right politics is rarely monarchist, and usually advocates harsher law enforcement, particularly against disfavored groups, and sometimes <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">fascist</span></u></a> or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">military dictatorship</span></u></a>.</p><p>The term <em>far right</em> also embraces extreme <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">nationalism</span></u></a>, and sometimes evokes a <em>pure</em> ideal of the nation, often defined by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28classification_of_human_beings%29" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">race</span></u></a>. <strong>They may advocate the expansion or restructuring of existing state borders to achieve an ideal nation, often to the point of embracing </strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>war</strong></span></u></a><strong> and </strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>imperialism</strong></span></u></a><strong>. In English-speaking nations, this nationalism is often descended from militant aspects of British </strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Imperialism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>New Imperialism</strong></span></u></a><strong>. </strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right-wing_populism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>Radical right-wing populism</strong></span></u></a><strong> is a far right ideology that accepts representative democracy, but criticizes supposed political elites and appeals to </strong><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethno-nationalism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff"><strong>ethno-nationalism</strong></span></u></a><strong>.</strong> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Fascism</span></u></a> is generally, but not universally, classified as a far-right ideology. However, right-wing libertarian scholars <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/friend._A._Hayek" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">friend. A. Hayek</span></u></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Ludwig von Mises</span></u></a>[<em><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">citation needed</span></u></a></em>], as well as conservative author <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn</span></u></a>, are noteworthy dissenters from that view. Both have labeled fascism <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">far left</span></u></a>, based on their view of the political spectrum that equates <em>left</em> with support for increased government power and <em>right</em> with opposition to the same.</p><p> </p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Environmentalism</span></u></a>, calls for <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_employment" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">full employment</span></u></a> and other concerns common on the left are sometimes found in the far right. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Populism</span></u></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_unrest" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">social unrest</span></u></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarky" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Autarky</span></u></a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">violence</span></u></a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">revolution</span></u></a> can be found in both the far right and far left.</p><p>The term "far right" has sometimes been used to describe certain "free market dictatorships", such as that of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Augusto Pinochet</span></u></a> in <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Chile</span></u></a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-4" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[5]</span></u></a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-5" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[6]</span></u></a> While the term is occasionally applied to supporters of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">laissez-faire</span></u></a> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">capitalism</span></u></a>, calling right-wing libertarians <em>far right</em> is a matter of controversy. Capitalist libertarians consider themselves proponents of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">Classical liberalism</span></u></a>, which was the main adversary of the original far right. In his essays "Left and Right: the Prospects for Liberty" and "Confessions of a Right-Wing Liberal", Murray Rothbard even put libertarianism on the left, claiming that conservatives are the right and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #0000ff">socialists</span></u></a> merely "middle-of-the road".<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-6" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[7]</span></u></a>.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-7" target="_blank"><u><span style="color: #800080">[8]</span></u></a></p><p>*****************</p><p> </p><p>Next time you call yourself a right winger, better make sure you understand what it means.</p><p> </p><p>Peace<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/FeltTip/peaceful.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":peaceful:" title="Peaceful :peaceful:" data-shortname=":peaceful:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 332048, member: 12148"] [b]Better Left than Right???[/b] [B]Far right[/B], [B]extreme right[/B], [B]ultra-right[/B], or [B]radical right[/B] are terms used to discuss the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualitative_research"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]qualitative[/COLOR][/U][/URL] or [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_research"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]quantitative[/COLOR][/U][/URL] position a group or person occupies within a [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]political spectrum[/COLOR][/U][/URL]. The terms [I]far right[/I] and [I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]far left[/COLOR][/U][/URL][/I] are often used to imply that someone is an [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]extremist[/COLOR][/U][/URL]. The terms are used by many political commentators to discuss political groups, movements, and political parties that are difficult to classify within conventional [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_politics"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Right-wing politics[/COLOR][/U][/URL]. The terms [I]extreme right[/I] or [I]ultra right[/I] are used by some scholars to discuss only those right-wing political groups that step outside the boundaries of traditional electoral politics. This generally includes the revolutionary right, militant racial supremacists and religious extremists, [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]fascists[/COLOR][/U][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Fascism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]neo-fascists[/COLOR][/U][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Nazis[/COLOR][/U][/URL], and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]neo-Nazis[/COLOR][/U][/URL].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-fasc-0"][U][COLOR=#800080][1][/COLOR][/U][/URL] In this usage, the terms are distinct from other forms of right-wing politics such as the less-militant sectors of the far right, right-wing [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]populists[/COLOR][/U][/URL] and the more traditional [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservativism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]conservatives[/COLOR][/U][/URL].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-1"][U][COLOR=#800080][2][/COLOR][/U][/URL] The term [I]far right[/I] has been used by scholars in at least three somewhat conflicting ways:[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-2"][U][COLOR=#800080][3][/COLOR][/U][/URL][LIST=1] [*]Reform-oriented right-wing movements or rightist factions of conservative political parties. These are sometimes called the dissident right, activist right, or right-wing populism. They are positioned between traditional conservatives and the extreme right. These participants are found outside mainstream electoral politics, but they generally produce a movement of reform rather than revolution. [*][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-fascism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Neo-fascists[/COLOR][/U][/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]neo-Nazis[/COLOR][/U][/URL] are usually labeled extreme right or ultra right. Such groups are generally revolutionary in character rather than reformist. Neo-Nazi and Neo-fascist literally means "new Nazi" and "new fascist", implying that they are from the period following [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]World War II[/COLOR][/U][/URL]. [*]The whole range of right-wing politics, from the borders of conservatism out to the far reaches of the extreme right.[/LIST]These categories are not universally accepted, and other uses exist, making comparative use of the term complicated. In the 2000s, the term [I]far right[/I] is usually applied to those who support [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authoritarianism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]authoritarianism[/COLOR][/U][/URL] and policies that are considered [I]right[/I] rather than [I]left[/I]. In regions and nations that have no recent history of monarchy, such as [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_America"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Central America[/COLOR][/U][/URL] (discounting the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Columbian"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Pre-Columbian[/COLOR][/U][/URL] era), [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Switzerland[/COLOR][/U][/URL], and the [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]United States[/COLOR][/U][/URL], far-right politics is rarely monarchist, and usually advocates harsher law enforcement, particularly against disfavored groups, and sometimes [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]fascist[/COLOR][/U][/URL] or [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_dictatorship"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]military dictatorship[/COLOR][/U][/URL]. The term [I]far right[/I] also embraces extreme [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]nationalism[/COLOR][/U][/URL], and sometimes evokes a [I]pure[/I] ideal of the nation, often defined by [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_%28classification_of_human_beings%29"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]race[/COLOR][/U][/URL]. [B]They may advocate the expansion or restructuring of existing state borders to achieve an ideal nation, often to the point of embracing [/B][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War"][U][COLOR=#0000ff][B]war[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL][B] and [/B][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperialism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff][B]imperialism[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL][B]. In English-speaking nations, this nationalism is often descended from militant aspects of British [/B][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Imperialism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff][B]New Imperialism[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL][B]. [/B][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_right-wing_populism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff][B]Radical right-wing populism[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL][B] is a far right ideology that accepts representative democracy, but criticizes supposed political elites and appeals to [/B][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethno-nationalism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff][B]ethno-nationalism[/B][/COLOR][/U][/URL][B].[/B] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Fascism[/COLOR][/U][/URL] is generally, but not universally, classified as a far-right ideology. However, right-wing libertarian scholars [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/friend._A._Hayek"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]friend. A. Hayek[/COLOR][/U][/URL] and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_von_Mises"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Ludwig von Mises[/COLOR][/U][/URL][[I][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]citation needed[/COLOR][/U][/URL][/I]], as well as conservative author [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erik_von_Kuehnelt-Leddihn"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddihn[/COLOR][/U][/URL], are noteworthy dissenters from that view. Both have labeled fascism [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_left"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]far left[/COLOR][/U][/URL], based on their view of the political spectrum that equates [I]left[/I] with support for increased government power and [I]right[/I] with opposition to the same. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmentalism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Environmentalism[/COLOR][/U][/URL], calls for [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_employment"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]full employment[/COLOR][/U][/URL] and other concerns common on the left are sometimes found in the far right. [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Populism[/COLOR][/U][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_unrest"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]social unrest[/COLOR][/U][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autarky"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Autarky[/COLOR][/U][/URL], [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]violence[/COLOR][/U][/URL], and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revolution"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]revolution[/COLOR][/U][/URL] can be found in both the far right and far left. The term "far right" has sometimes been used to describe certain "free market dictatorships", such as that of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augusto_Pinochet"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Augusto Pinochet[/COLOR][/U][/URL] in [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chile"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Chile[/COLOR][/U][/URL].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-4"][U][COLOR=#800080][5][/COLOR][/U][/URL][URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-5"][U][COLOR=#800080][6][/COLOR][/U][/URL] While the term is occasionally applied to supporters of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laissez-faire"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]laissez-faire[/COLOR][/U][/URL] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]capitalism[/COLOR][/U][/URL], calling right-wing libertarians [I]far right[/I] is a matter of controversy. Capitalist libertarians consider themselves proponents of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_liberalism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]Classical liberalism[/COLOR][/U][/URL], which was the main adversary of the original far right. In his essays "Left and Right: the Prospects for Liberty" and "Confessions of a Right-Wing Liberal", Murray Rothbard even put libertarianism on the left, claiming that conservatives are the right and [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism"][U][COLOR=#0000ff]socialists[/COLOR][/U][/URL] merely "middle-of-the road".[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-6"][U][COLOR=#800080][7][/COLOR][/U][/URL].[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right#cite_note-7"][U][COLOR=#800080][8][/COLOR][/U][/URL] ***************** Next time you call yourself a right winger, better make sure you understand what it means. Peace:peaceful: [/QUOTE]
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