Yard shifting hours cutback

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by ziffle, May 9, 2009.

  1. ziffle

    ziffle New Member

    Has hours shifting in the yard anywhere else been cut back to only eight? Here in Portland Oregon, shifting work is performed by feeder drivers. In the past, drivers were allowed to shift for as many hours as was necessary to get the job done. That was usually 9 to 11 hours a day. Rumor was that corporate sent a new mandate that drivers will not be allowed anymore than 8 in the yard.
     
  2. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    8 may be less than 9 or 11 but is more than 0.
     
  3. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt You can call me Chappy Staff Member

    This is the corollary theorem to:
    80% of something is more than 100% of nothing.
     
  4. cachsux

    cachsux Wah

    It`s been that way,except for a few shifts,since after peak.
     
  5. bluehdmc

    bluehdmc Well-Known Member

    It's been that way in NJ for awhile, unless they really need you.
     
  6. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member

    Yup, they kick 'em out the door at 8 hours here.
     
  7. brownrodster

    brownrodster New Member

    Which is equivalent to .8x > 0y if x is greater than 0.
     
  8. bubsdad

    bubsdad "Hang in there!"

    In Toledo the yard guys got their hours cut. They get pretty upset when feeders are called to cover an open shift job or fuel job and are sent on the road after working a few hours in the yard resulting in a 10+ hour day.
     
  9. ziffle

    ziffle New Member

    Sounds like we do things a little differently in Portland than Toledo. Yard work is done by full time feeder drivers not part timers. After peak they started changing the yard runs to only 8 or 2 to 8 with other local work added.
     
  10. ziffle

    ziffle New Member

    One more difference in Portland is that we have two different lots about a mile apart. Our yard goats are constantly moving loads and empties on the road between the hubs. In Portland it does not make sense to treat the shifting jobs as part time or under 8. Portland yard shifters have to have a commercial drivers license to take the yard goats on the road.
     
  11. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.


    ...and that matters as far as number of hours worked in what way? We are guaranteed 8 hours--they are giving you 8 hours--I don't see the problem, other than the loss of OT, and I have yet to read in the contract where overtime is a guarantee.
     
  12. Feederdrivermack

    Feederdrivermack New Member


    Correct except when senior shifters are sent home in 8 and junior drivers get 10 hour paydays which happens little more than it should. The shifting jobs are bid as premium jobs so most senior drivers get lock into those assignments. While there is no language for guaranteed overtime, there is language as to all feeder moves done in seniority order. The contract also says we are to work a 5 day work week 8 hours per day. In this district we have 15 jobs that have 2 start times on Monday and only work a 4 day work week. The contract also says supervisors will nor perform collective bargaining agreement work, we know thyat is not too true either. My point is Upstatenyer is that UPS doesnt always play by the rules.
     
  13. yeldarb

    yeldarb Member

    Wow. Shifting is premium work? Here, most shifting is done by less seniority, and the few guys who had more seniority chose to shift, because they wanted 60 hours every week. Most of our shifting has been cut to 9 hours.
     
  14. bubsdad

    bubsdad "Hang in there!"

    Sfifting and fueling jobs aren't part time but they aren't limited to feeders. Most of the guys who are full time shifters came from packages and some came from in the hub. You don't have to be CDL qualified to bid a shift or fuel job here as they don't leave the yard. When a shifter or fueler goes on vacation or takes a day off they cover it with the feeder extra board. All of the full time yard guys have big seniority so the reason they are upset is the feeder is coming in to cover a shift job and then getting sent on the road, therefore, lengthening his day, and the yard guys are limited to 8 hours.
     
  15. MobileBA

    MobileBA Member

    So do you make more when you go vacation mobile 36? When you call in sick now you really are not losing out on overtime are you?
     
  16. Feederdrivermack

    Feederdrivermack New Member

     
  17. Mr Shifter

    Mr Shifter Active Member

    Yeap, here all the drivers hate shifting. They get too much 5th wheel grease on their hands. :peaceful:
     
  18. feederdriver06

    feederdriver06 former monkey slave

    our shifters have been told 8 hours. I don't think theres been any bitchin because those guys are 8 and skate guys anyway.
     
  19. brownrodster

    brownrodster New Member


    Our part time, non CDL shifters in our tiny building pull our trailers several hundred feet down the road from our building to our parking lot. I've always wanted to alert the State Patrol or proper authorities about this.
     
  20. over9five

    over9five Moderator Staff Member


    LOL! That would open some CDL bids.