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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hurricanegunner" data-source="post: 617221" data-attributes="member: 22122"><p>What I was trying to say is that this is UPS's company.  They make the rules.  We just have jobs here, and we work for them and follow their rules.  If they want to charge us for an avoidable accident even though it was not our fault, we can't do anything about it.  It's not right, but that is just the way it is.  If the union would stand up to the company on these occasions, the outcomes might be different.  But in our building the union just tells us, "You still have a job, and this only messes up your safe driving record.  Live with it."</p></blockquote><p></p>