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<blockquote data-quote="TheVoice" data-source="post: 262137" data-attributes="member: 12538"><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">Okay, I will attempt to play nice. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">The truth of the matter is, you’re right Tie, I am a “Johnny-come-lately.” The fact is, I had no knowledge of this forum until recently. A brother I work with turned me onto it. Had I known that it existed earlier, I would have joined earlier. Who knows, we might have even been civil to each other at first.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">But I just don’t normally have the time to interact in these sites…and I will further admit that, my timing is selective. I can’t help that either way. But I respect that a forum like this exists. I think its important that there be a dialog between people of all sides to this thing, in all matters. Especially, one that exists outside the normal channels. And that is not excluding any other topics in this site that I don’t know about. I am sure there are a lot of very interesting other aspects of this site I havnt seen yet. But right now, my focus is on the contract, because that is what affects my family, my coworkers, and me; union and company alike.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">My intentions on joining this forum are not to misinform people, or to spread rhetoric. If I have done that in any way, please point out where I have done so, and I will try to address it. If I am wrong, I will admit it. It wont be the first time I have been wrong about something, nor will it be the last.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">As for where I was before these contracts were being discussed, I was doing the same thing I assume you were doing…I was working and living, trying to get by. </span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I am a steward in my building and I try to stay as active with the membership as I can. I am involved with the rank and file and the company on a daily basis. So although I wasn’t active on this site, doesn’t mean I haven’t been involved since the beginning. It hasn’t exactly been easy-going, opposing the tentative contract that your own International and local, not to mention the company together, is pitching.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">It simply comes down to this. Yes, I agree, the contract has some good things, it could be much worse in a lot of ways. But there are some issues that I feel needed to be addressed that weren’t. And no, they are not all economic. And there are more than a few that feel that way. And we can argue round and round about our interpretation to it all, in the end, its all semantics…as it is that we are both biased in our own ways. You, and your obviously not alone, will feel one way, while a few others and I will feel the other way. I can be cool with agreeing to disagree, can you? Lets try to be civil to each other. I would like to engage you in respectful conversation, if you can’t do that, you cant say I didn’t try.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">As for making fun of the way I write, I can’t help it, that’s the way I write…no, I don’t talk like this at all.</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'"><span style="font-size: 12px">I n the interest of making sure that people are misinformed about things, lets try and start a thread where we go down the line and talk about each and every issue that is a concern right now. You offer a unique perspective, coming from management, that a lot of us can possibly learn from, and I value that opinion, I am just not cool with the bantering back and forth…trust me though, I am a big boy, I can deal with it if that’s the way it has to be played…but the truth is, it doesn’t have to be. So truce?</span></span></p><p></p><p><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">The Voice </span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheVoice, post: 262137, member: 12538"] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]Okay, I will attempt to play nice. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]The truth of the matter is, you’re right Tie, I am a “Johnny-come-lately.” The fact is, I had no knowledge of this forum until recently. A brother I work with turned me onto it. Had I known that it existed earlier, I would have joined earlier. Who knows, we might have even been civil to each other at first.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]But I just don’t normally have the time to interact in these sites…and I will further admit that, my timing is selective. I can’t help that either way. But I respect that a forum like this exists. I think its important that there be a dialog between people of all sides to this thing, in all matters. Especially, one that exists outside the normal channels. And that is not excluding any other topics in this site that I don’t know about. I am sure there are a lot of very interesting other aspects of this site I havnt seen yet. But right now, my focus is on the contract, because that is what affects my family, my coworkers, and me; union and company alike.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]My intentions on joining this forum are not to misinform people, or to spread rhetoric. If I have done that in any way, please point out where I have done so, and I will try to address it. If I am wrong, I will admit it. It wont be the first time I have been wrong about something, nor will it be the last.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]As for where I was before these contracts were being discussed, I was doing the same thing I assume you were doing…I was working and living, trying to get by. [/FONT][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I am a steward in my building and I try to stay as active with the membership as I can. I am involved with the rank and file and the company on a daily basis. So although I wasn’t active on this site, doesn’t mean I haven’t been involved since the beginning. It hasn’t exactly been easy-going, opposing the tentative contract that your own International and local, not to mention the company together, is pitching.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]It simply comes down to this. Yes, I agree, the contract has some good things, it could be much worse in a lot of ways. But there are some issues that I feel needed to be addressed that weren’t. And no, they are not all economic. And there are more than a few that feel that way. And we can argue round and round about our interpretation to it all, in the end, its all semantics…as it is that we are both biased in our own ways. You, and your obviously not alone, will feel one way, while a few others and I will feel the other way. I can be cool with agreeing to disagree, can you? Lets try to be civil to each other. I would like to engage you in respectful conversation, if you can’t do that, you cant say I didn’t try.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]As for making fun of the way I write, I can’t help it, that’s the way I write…no, I don’t talk like this at all.[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]I n the interest of making sure that people are misinformed about things, lets try and start a thread where we go down the line and talk about each and every issue that is a concern right now. You offer a unique perspective, coming from management, that a lot of us can possibly learn from, and I value that opinion, I am just not cool with the bantering back and forth…trust me though, I am a big boy, I can deal with it if that’s the way it has to be played…but the truth is, it doesn’t have to be. So truce?[/SIZE][/FONT] [SIZE=3][/SIZE] [SIZE=3][FONT=Times New Roman]The Voice [/FONT][/SIZE] [/QUOTE]
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