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<blockquote data-quote="Its_a_me" data-source="post: 5319198" data-attributes="member: 93115"><p>..<strong>.and what you don't realize that for the 18-26 yr olds those health benefits are all but meaningless. </strong>Young adults can stay on their parent’s plan until 26. Those under 26 would qualify for Medicaid if they worked only at UPS part-time and the insurance coverage went away as they would be low income employed. And for the few that killed themselves with OT to not qualify for Medicaid: they would get Obamacare subsidies to purchase the health insurance at a much lower cost.</p><p></p><p>It's almost as worthless as offering tuition reimbursement to the high school dropout.</p><p></p><p>(In general) The only people that are applying these days (and staying PT) are those with families (or single people with known medical problems). The job has to offer benefits to get them (30-50 years olds in my building) as those 18-26 year olds avoid this job or work it for one summer and are never heard from again. Those that actually come simply ghost and are no call no shows until the job gets posted again.</p><p></p><p><strong>The union got its @ $ $ kicked at the negotiating table</strong> when it comes to part timers. They had to pay more in salary<strong> while maintaining the same benefits </strong>without an union involvement. It wasn't you make X dollars in benefits we are going to take a little of that away and give you more cash. It was we need to pay more cash or no one will show up for this union negotiated job. </p><p></p><p>That pretty much negates having a union. <strong>If the company took away the benefits they would lose their present workforce--and they are already having trouble hiring with those benefits included.</strong> So I don't get why you don't understand why the would have to maintain the benefits and bump the salary too.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Its_a_me, post: 5319198, member: 93115"] ..[B].and what you don't realize that for the 18-26 yr olds those health benefits are all but meaningless. [/B]Young adults can stay on their parent’s plan until 26. Those under 26 would qualify for Medicaid if they worked only at UPS part-time and the insurance coverage went away as they would be low income employed. And for the few that killed themselves with OT to not qualify for Medicaid: they would get Obamacare subsidies to purchase the health insurance at a much lower cost. It's almost as worthless as offering tuition reimbursement to the high school dropout. (In general) The only people that are applying these days (and staying PT) are those with families (or single people with known medical problems). The job has to offer benefits to get them (30-50 years olds in my building) as those 18-26 year olds avoid this job or work it for one summer and are never heard from again. Those that actually come simply ghost and are no call no shows until the job gets posted again. [B]The union got its @ $ $ kicked at the negotiating table[/B] when it comes to part timers. They had to pay more in salary[B] while maintaining the same benefits [/B]without an union involvement. It wasn't you make X dollars in benefits we are going to take a little of that away and give you more cash. It was we need to pay more cash or no one will show up for this union negotiated job. That pretty much negates having a union. [B]If the company took away the benefits they would lose their present workforce--and they are already having trouble hiring with those benefits included.[/B] So I don't get why you don't understand why the would have to maintain the benefits and bump the salary too. [/QUOTE]
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