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396 meeting Sunday June 2, 2013
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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1151136" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>I appreciate your honesty and fair debate. I cannot hate on you because you have presented a reasonable debate and demonstrated that you have given an honest look at the issues. Yes, we disagree, but we are both comfortable with our decisions and that is what is important.</p><p></p><p>In local 396, they have been WEAK at recovering sup working cases and its been over a year since they actually recouped any monies for sup working cases. At best, they can recover petty cases involving less than 5 hours, but in larger violations, they cant fight their way out of a wet paper bag.</p><p></p><p>For example. Two christmases ago, one center had not only supervisors working, but the center manager was delivering along with one loss prevention supervisor plus the company safety officer. Yes, they were all in package cars and working over 8 hours a day. Now, back in november, the company had us stewards in a meeting discussing xmas plans. Being that i have already experienced the some of the worst planned xmas's in years, this one posed the same shortfalls. They were told about the potentials for problems and we were ignored.</p><p></p><p>As peak week approached, volume had already been heavier than planned. When i say planned, that means "GUESSED". The company was short on trucks and drivers. They did not hire xmas drivers and we already used up our cover and air drivers. They failed to train a reasonable workforce to handle the volume and then decided to subsidize the workforce with supervisors. For two weeks, managers and supervisors worked daily.</p><p></p><p>A grievance was filed on ALL company persons working and a meeting was held. OF course, as usual, the local was unable to handle the case and it was referred to panel. First panel, postponed. Second panel, deadlock, third panel, decision to side with the company because of "unforseen" volume changes. ( even though todays software can accurately predict volume a week in advance)</p><p></p><p>The irony here brother Brown?</p><p></p><p>Andy M was the chair of that panel and voted with the company. The claim was denied.</p><p></p><p>And now today, he wants us to file a sup working grievance? Thats laughable at best.</p><p></p><p>Showing the company that we can file grievances no longer scares them, as they know they have the upper hand in the panel system. This isnt the old days, its the new way of handling cases, deadlock them for months, then side with the company. It all has to do with the local representation of course, and currently, we are poorly represented.</p><p></p><p>I hope that those that are willing to give up their current healthcare willing, are able to deal with the consequences down the road when they surface.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1151136, member: 17969"] I appreciate your honesty and fair debate. I cannot hate on you because you have presented a reasonable debate and demonstrated that you have given an honest look at the issues. Yes, we disagree, but we are both comfortable with our decisions and that is what is important. In local 396, they have been WEAK at recovering sup working cases and its been over a year since they actually recouped any monies for sup working cases. At best, they can recover petty cases involving less than 5 hours, but in larger violations, they cant fight their way out of a wet paper bag. For example. Two christmases ago, one center had not only supervisors working, but the center manager was delivering along with one loss prevention supervisor plus the company safety officer. Yes, they were all in package cars and working over 8 hours a day. Now, back in november, the company had us stewards in a meeting discussing xmas plans. Being that i have already experienced the some of the worst planned xmas's in years, this one posed the same shortfalls. They were told about the potentials for problems and we were ignored. As peak week approached, volume had already been heavier than planned. When i say planned, that means "GUESSED". The company was short on trucks and drivers. They did not hire xmas drivers and we already used up our cover and air drivers. They failed to train a reasonable workforce to handle the volume and then decided to subsidize the workforce with supervisors. For two weeks, managers and supervisors worked daily. A grievance was filed on ALL company persons working and a meeting was held. OF course, as usual, the local was unable to handle the case and it was referred to panel. First panel, postponed. Second panel, deadlock, third panel, decision to side with the company because of "unforseen" volume changes. ( even though todays software can accurately predict volume a week in advance) The irony here brother Brown? Andy M was the chair of that panel and voted with the company. The claim was denied. And now today, he wants us to file a sup working grievance? Thats laughable at best. Showing the company that we can file grievances no longer scares them, as they know they have the upper hand in the panel system. This isnt the old days, its the new way of handling cases, deadlock them for months, then side with the company. It all has to do with the local representation of course, and currently, we are poorly represented. I hope that those that are willing to give up their current healthcare willing, are able to deal with the consequences down the road when they surface. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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