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705 and 710 forced to accept contract.
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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 3839198" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>If I feel there is cause, I will, because it is my duty.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Nope, it's squares and rectangles. You have to resort to word play to support your position.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Not the point. Saying that people were complaining about working Saturdays is an oversimplified description of the problem. The real problems were that people were forced from a m-friend schedule to a t-s schedule under the last contract, that would have solved itself within a few years when those people had the seniority to bid back to m-friend. Up and comers would know they were bidding a t-s shift. That's not changing, they just have to do it for 6 dollars less per hours. In the case of people working t-s being forced to work maondays as well, that could, and should have been dealt with under the last contract at the local level. Saying that 22.4's solve the problem of weekend work is objectively wrong. It only shifts it from one group to the next. Not a good solution.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>On that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Underinformed is not the same as misinformed. I was, however, making a general statement. If you felt that comment was directed at you, that suggests you believe it applies to you. So, tell me, what <em>are</em> you underinformed about?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If that is referring to me, I do suspect there has been some wrongdoing, hence the research, just doing my due diligence as a responsible union member. I have yet to make any allegations, however. I implied that a certain union financial analyst may have crossed the line, but I don't know that she technically violated any rules or laws.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 3839198, member: 63706"] If I feel there is cause, I will, because it is my duty. Nope, it's squares and rectangles. You have to resort to word play to support your position. Not the point. Saying that people were complaining about working Saturdays is an oversimplified description of the problem. The real problems were that people were forced from a m-friend schedule to a t-s schedule under the last contract, that would have solved itself within a few years when those people had the seniority to bid back to m-friend. Up and comers would know they were bidding a t-s shift. That's not changing, they just have to do it for 6 dollars less per hours. In the case of people working t-s being forced to work maondays as well, that could, and should have been dealt with under the last contract at the local level. Saying that 22.4's solve the problem of weekend work is objectively wrong. It only shifts it from one group to the next. Not a good solution. On that. Underinformed is not the same as misinformed. I was, however, making a general statement. If you felt that comment was directed at you, that suggests you believe it applies to you. So, tell me, what [I]are[/I] you underinformed about? If that is referring to me, I do suspect there has been some wrongdoing, hence the research, just doing my due diligence as a responsible union member. I have yet to make any allegations, however. I implied that a certain union financial analyst may have crossed the line, but I don't know that she technically violated any rules or laws. [/QUOTE]
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