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<blockquote data-quote="brownman15" data-source="post: 366214" data-attributes="member: 9559"><p>We meet with the company on june 9th for the 1st time and gave them a complete and full proposal that the membership authorized us to propose. The company had a full two weeks in order to make a complete counter proposal and instead they refuse to talk economics. </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">What misrepresenting red fails to acknowledge here is economics are always the last thing discussed at negotiations. In fact the talks are structured by both sides to make economics the last thing discussed. By saying the company refuses to discuss economics it makes it sound like the union is pressuring a reluctant company. A common tactic in the propaganda the union plays during negotiations. </span></p><p></p><p>economics can be discussed last but company should have brought an economics proposal 2 first meeting so union can take at least 2 weeks 2 look it over like the company says they need to look at union proposal. what company is gonna give economics proposal on july 31. if the roles were reversed and we holding back on economic proposal and other articles the company would be crying foul</p><p> </p><p>While at the same time coming back piece mealing us with counter proposals here and there, very unproffesional.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">More misrepresentation by misrepresenting red. the contract is broken into sections and section committees. some committees will progress quicker then others. The union propagandist then misrepresents those sections moving slower as a sign the company is piece mealing. Red knows what goes on here but yet still puts this misinformation out. </span></p><p> </p><p></p><p>the company has had plenty of time to have this so called committees have a full proposal by june 9 how can both sides negotiate without a proposal</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownman15, post: 366214, member: 9559"] We meet with the company on june 9th for the 1st time and gave them a complete and full proposal that the membership authorized us to propose. The company had a full two weeks in order to make a complete counter proposal and instead they refuse to talk economics. [COLOR=blue]What misrepresenting red fails to acknowledge here is economics are always the last thing discussed at negotiations. In fact the talks are structured by both sides to make economics the last thing discussed. By saying the company refuses to discuss economics it makes it sound like the union is pressuring a reluctant company. A common tactic in the propaganda the union plays during negotiations. [/COLOR] economics can be discussed last but company should have brought an economics proposal 2 first meeting so union can take at least 2 weeks 2 look it over like the company says they need to look at union proposal. what company is gonna give economics proposal on july 31. if the roles were reversed and we holding back on economic proposal and other articles the company would be crying foul While at the same time coming back piece mealing us with counter proposals here and there, very unproffesional. [COLOR=blue]More misrepresentation by misrepresenting red. the contract is broken into sections and section committees. some committees will progress quicker then others. The union propagandist then misrepresents those sections moving slower as a sign the company is piece mealing. Red knows what goes on here but yet still puts this misinformation out. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff][/COLOR] the company has had plenty of time to have this so called committees have a full proposal by june 9 how can both sides negotiate without a proposal [/QUOTE]
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