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<blockquote data-quote="MrFedEx" data-source="post: 4419311" data-attributes="member: 12508">So you hear. Any proof? No, just conjecture. The facts are that you do wait longer for elective procedures with socialized medicine, but the care is quite good. I am related to a Vancouver, BC M.D. who actually knows the system, and he acknowledges longer wait times. My Canadian relatives love the health care they receive. If they want an elective procedure and don&#039;t want to wait, there is always the option of coming to the US or medical tourism in India. Few use those options. Anecdotal, but based on actual experiences, not a political agenda.I also have relatives in France, who have zero complaints with their system. My BIL and SIL are both dual citizens, and they much prefer the French system.I realize you have a narrative you need to push, but how about tossing-in some truth instead of hyperbole?If anything, this crisis will preserve and hopefully, enhance the ACA and prevent the GOP from destroying it. The faults of our current system seem to be on full display.$$$$ and ideology over health, van. You&#039;ll never learn. The Kool-Aid runs full strength through your veins.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="MrFedEx, post: 4419311, member: 12508"] So you hear. Any proof? No, just conjecture. The facts are that you do wait longer for elective procedures with socialized medicine, but the care is quite good. I am related to a Vancouver, BC M.D. who actually knows the system, and he acknowledges longer wait times. My Canadian relatives love the health care they receive. If they want an elective procedure and don't want to wait, there is always the option of coming to the US or medical tourism in India. Few use those options. Anecdotal, but based on actual experiences, not a political agenda. I also have relatives in France, who have zero complaints with their system. My BIL and SIL are both dual citizens, and they much prefer the French system. I realize you have a narrative you need to push, but how about tossing-in some truth instead of hyperbole? If anything, this crisis will preserve and hopefully, enhance the ACA and prevent the GOP from destroying it. The faults of our current system seem to be on full display. $$$$ and ideology over health, van. You'll never learn. The Kool-Aid runs full strength through your veins. [/QUOTE]

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