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<blockquote data-quote="InsideUPS" data-source="post: 1112111" data-attributes="member: 31414"><p>Bagels, downhillexpress, and others...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The purpose of my post <u><strong>was strictly for the purpose of trying to understand why UPS and our Teamster negotiators are at an impasse </strong></u> on the healthcare issue. "wgf46" brought up the fact that UPS is self-insured....... I THANK you for that fact as I TOTALLY forgot about this as I was attempting to understand UPS's position on this issue. I brought Aetna into this conversation from a Motley Fools (investor forum) post which seemed to indicate Aetna may have had something to do with our negotiation issues. <u><strong>I really could care less.........whether or not insurance is a form of socialism......other than the fact of how It MAY relate to our CURRENT contract negotiations</strong></u>. Debating socialism ad infinitum here is NOT MY personal intention, desire, goal, etc... </p><p> </p><p>So...with that said, onto additional thoughts as to why UPS is making healthcare a primary issue in these negotiations... I'm more than interested in reading your thoughts on this matter. Now thinking about the fact that UPS IS self-insured....I came across several interesting articles that may provide additional insight into understanding these negotiations. </p><p> </p><p><a href="http://www.treasuryandrisk.com/2012/02/28/more-work-for-the-self-insured" target="_blank">More Work for the Self-Insured</a></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #0000cd"><em>"Even as self-insured companies comply with the new regulations, they are looking ahead to the changes that will occur in 2014, when the state exchanges come online. At that point, <strong><u>depending on whether they are in a high-wage or low-wage industries, companies can begin to decide whether it’s worth it to continue to provide health coverage or better to let employees move to an exchange and pay the penalty of $2,000 per employee.</u></strong>"</em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000cd"><em></em></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000cd"><em></em></span><span style="color: #000000"><strong>SO....NO CONSPIRACY theories, NO BS, just trying to better understand this issue. <u>It is a TOTAL SHAME that our UNION and/or UPS does not simply come out and explain the whole issue to us and allow us to decide as individuals who's BSing who</u>. I remember during the 1997 strike when UPS came out TOO LATE with a comprehensive plan and brochure of all that they were offering us........AFTER we voted for the "Strike Authorization" vote. Keeping us in the dark about issues leads to ALL types of speculation...</strong></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsideUPS, post: 1112111, member: 31414"] Bagels, downhillexpress, and others... The purpose of my post [U][B]was strictly for the purpose of trying to understand why UPS and our Teamster negotiators are at an impasse [/B][/U] on the healthcare issue. "wgf46" brought up the fact that UPS is self-insured....... I THANK you for that fact as I TOTALLY forgot about this as I was attempting to understand UPS's position on this issue. I brought Aetna into this conversation from a Motley Fools (investor forum) post which seemed to indicate Aetna may have had something to do with our negotiation issues. [U][B]I really could care less.........whether or not insurance is a form of socialism......other than the fact of how It MAY relate to our CURRENT contract negotiations[/B][/U]. Debating socialism ad infinitum here is NOT MY personal intention, desire, goal, etc... So...with that said, onto additional thoughts as to why UPS is making healthcare a primary issue in these negotiations... I'm more than interested in reading your thoughts on this matter. Now thinking about the fact that UPS IS self-insured....I came across several interesting articles that may provide additional insight into understanding these negotiations. [url=http://www.treasuryandrisk.com/2012/02/28/more-work-for-the-self-insured]More Work for the Self-Insured[/url] [COLOR=#0000cd][I]"Even as self-insured companies comply with the new regulations, they are looking ahead to the changes that will occur in 2014, when the state exchanges come online. At that point, [B][U]depending on whether they are in a high-wage or low-wage industries, companies can begin to decide whether it’s worth it to continue to provide health coverage or better to let employees move to an exchange and pay the penalty of $2,000 per employee.[/U][/B]" [/I][/COLOR][COLOR=#000000][B]SO....NO CONSPIRACY theories, NO BS, just trying to better understand this issue. [U]It is a TOTAL SHAME that our UNION and/or UPS does not simply come out and explain the whole issue to us and allow us to decide as individuals who's BSing who[/U]. I remember during the 1997 strike when UPS came out TOO LATE with a comprehensive plan and brochure of all that they were offering us........AFTER we voted for the "Strike Authorization" vote. Keeping us in the dark about issues leads to ALL types of speculation...[/B][/COLOR][COLOR=#0000cd][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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