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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 997507" data-attributes="member: 14596">That lawsuit was already filed and lost by UPS in CA, and that is what I was referring to.&nbsp; I believe for several years boards there were set to shut down and not allow any deliveries during the specified lunch period.Yes I am telling you there is not a report they can query to tell whether a driver worked during the coded lunch.&nbsp; They could compare two different reports, the drivers time cards to see when lunch was coded and his delivery records to see when work was done.&nbsp; This would only take about 3-5 Minutes per driver to pull up and review.&nbsp; So for a 60 route center it would only require the center manager to spend an extra 3-5 hours every day away from his family to baby sit grown men and make sure they are doing what they have agreed to do.You are almost correct.&nbsp; Most of the over allowed reduction comes from those drivers who chose to work through their lunch to get home.&nbsp; They chose to give that time back.&nbsp; It is wrong and they should not do it, but they are grown men and if they chose to give that time to the center manager, it is really a stretch to call it stealing.&nbsp; On the other side of the coin, even in situations where the management team is ordered to babysit and make sure everyone not only codes the lunch but does not work during it, guess what?&nbsp; The over allowed still goes down.&nbsp; Not by as much, but it does.&nbsp; So is this because with the prospect of a later return home time, some drivers become runners and work unsafe, or because some drivers who normally don&#039;t really move at a brisk pace per the methods start to do so and thereby steal less time from the company?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 997507, member: 14596"] That lawsuit was already filed and lost by UPS in CA, and that is what I was referring to. I believe for several years boards there were set to shut down and not allow any deliveries during the specified lunch period. Yes I am telling you there is not a report they can query to tell whether a driver worked during the coded lunch. They could compare two different reports, the drivers time cards to see when lunch was coded and his delivery records to see when work was done. This would only take about 3-5 Minutes per driver to pull up and review. So for a 60 route center it would only require the center manager to spend an extra 3-5 hours every day away from his family to baby sit grown men and make sure they are doing what they have agreed to do. You are almost correct. Most of the over allowed reduction comes from those drivers who chose to work through their lunch to get home. They chose to give that time back. It is wrong and they should not do it, but they are grown men and if they chose to give that time to the center manager, it is really a stretch to call it stealing. On the other side of the coin, even in situations where the management team is ordered to babysit and make sure everyone not only codes the lunch but does not work during it, guess what? The over allowed still goes down. Not by as much, but it does. So is this because with the prospect of a later return home time, some drivers become runners and work unsafe, or because some drivers who normally don't really move at a brisk pace per the methods start to do so and thereby steal less time from the company? [/QUOTE]

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