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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1448940" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Well, you have the right wing propaganda down. Maybe you could actually try to understand the realities of IRAQ vs. just holding on to the talking points of the war mongers of fox news.</p><p></p><p>While you "cry" for the dead that isis kills, where is your outrage over the HUNDREDS of people murdered by AL MALIKI??? LONG before ISIS, the new iraqi government was KILLING hundreds of Sunnis. They were NOT a part of a "stabilized" Iraq. Where was your concern then?</p><p></p><p>Where is your Indepth opinion of those masacres?</p><p></p><p>Why did President Obama have to FORCE <strong>AL MALIKI</strong> to <strong>RESIGN</strong> as president?? </p><p></p><p>You are so consumed with "hate" for Obama, you can see the forrest from the trees. You can take a lead from the "maroon" who continues to provide his military analysis based on right wing talking points, but why not be smarter than that?</p><p></p><p>You think that 10,000 troops would have stopped anything? A residual force wouldnt have stopped the government from killing sunnnis by the hundreds. </p><p></p><p>This issue began in SYRIA, where we have no troops. The SUNNI nations provided arms, cash and support to the rebels in SYRIA as they fought ASSAD. Psst.. ASSAD is SHIA.</p><p></p><p>ISIS wants to ELIMINATE SHIA's . </p><p></p><p>That's where your misunderstanding begins.</p><p></p><p>But lets discuss removing the troops from IRAQ. This deal to remove troops was made by GW BUSH. How about you invest in some historical reflection?</p><p></p><p>""The <strong>U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement</strong> (official name: <strong>Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq</strong>) was a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_forces_agreement" target="_blank">status of forces agreement</a> (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011"</p><p></p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement</a></p><p></p><p>The REAL reason troops were withdrawn, is because IRAQ would not insure that American Troops would not have immunity from crimes committed out of combat. Same with Contractors.</p><p></p><p>Without this protection, troops had to be withdrawn. If they had stayed, you would be complaining today about americans being held in Iraqi prisons for war crimes.</p><p></p><p>But, of course, you havent thought this all out.</p><p></p><p>To you, hating on OBAMA for nothing, makes more sense. You and AV8 would rather pretend with make believe facts that serve nothing more than political fodder for the ignorant.</p><p></p><p>ISIS is a real problem, their intentions created by a genocide of their fellow sunnis and backed up by our own government until the problem reached US interests in Kurdish territories. Until that point, our govenment looked the other way to the hundreds of executions committed by the "new" stabilized Iraqi government.</p><p></p><p>But, dont let those facts get in your way of hating on president Obama.</p><p></p><p>Thats the easy road to making friends on this forum.</p><p></p><p>TOS.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1448940, member: 17969"] Well, you have the right wing propaganda down. Maybe you could actually try to understand the realities of IRAQ vs. just holding on to the talking points of the war mongers of fox news. While you "cry" for the dead that isis kills, where is your outrage over the HUNDREDS of people murdered by AL MALIKI??? LONG before ISIS, the new iraqi government was KILLING hundreds of Sunnis. They were NOT a part of a "stabilized" Iraq. Where was your concern then? Where is your Indepth opinion of those masacres? Why did President Obama have to FORCE [B]AL MALIKI[/B] to [B]RESIGN[/B] as president?? You are so consumed with "hate" for Obama, you can see the forrest from the trees. You can take a lead from the "maroon" who continues to provide his military analysis based on right wing talking points, but why not be smarter than that? You think that 10,000 troops would have stopped anything? A residual force wouldnt have stopped the government from killing sunnnis by the hundreds. This issue began in SYRIA, where we have no troops. The SUNNI nations provided arms, cash and support to the rebels in SYRIA as they fought ASSAD. Psst.. ASSAD is SHIA. ISIS wants to ELIMINATE SHIA's . That's where your misunderstanding begins. But lets discuss removing the troops from IRAQ. This deal to remove troops was made by GW BUSH. How about you invest in some historical reflection? ""The [B]U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement[/B] (official name: [B]Agreement Between the United States of America and the Republic of Iraq On the Withdrawal of United States Forces from Iraq and the Organization of Their Activities during Their Temporary Presence in Iraq[/B]) was a [URL='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status_of_forces_agreement']status of forces agreement[/URL] (SOFA) between Iraq and the United States, signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011" [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement[/url] The REAL reason troops were withdrawn, is because IRAQ would not insure that American Troops would not have immunity from crimes committed out of combat. Same with Contractors. Without this protection, troops had to be withdrawn. If they had stayed, you would be complaining today about americans being held in Iraqi prisons for war crimes. But, of course, you havent thought this all out. To you, hating on OBAMA for nothing, makes more sense. You and AV8 would rather pretend with make believe facts that serve nothing more than political fodder for the ignorant. ISIS is a real problem, their intentions created by a genocide of their fellow sunnis and backed up by our own government until the problem reached US interests in Kurdish territories. Until that point, our govenment looked the other way to the hundreds of executions committed by the "new" stabilized Iraqi government. But, dont let those facts get in your way of hating on president Obama. Thats the easy road to making friends on this forum. TOS. [/QUOTE]
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