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<blockquote data-quote="Whither" data-source="post: 4096646" data-attributes="member: 76643"><p>I think the main difference is UPS is still, for the time being, a viable career. And the trainers don't forget to remind you at every turn. It's less 'chill'. Now, granted, it is harder and more complex work: but, look, if you're a safe, competent, and reasonably sharp driver for Amazon, there's no reason why you couldn't meet UPS's <em>stated</em> expectations. But I know enough about UPS, here and IRL, that whereas Amazon right now is happy to overlook reasons not to hire a driver, because their turnover is atrocious, you easily catch on that UPS is looking for reasons not to hire a driver (that is, a permanent, FT, union driver). There's something very 'old school' about UPS. For better and worse. On the whole I like it. While there's more surveillance and (for now!) idle threats than Amazon can muster, since Amazon does things the cheap, shoddy way and drivers treat it with the same attitude, ironically it seems more 'human' at UPS to me. Probably the lion's share of that is because of what happened in the 1930s. If UPS wasn't already union, then they'd be just like Amazon and FedEx, and that's obviously the direction the company is heading. I don't think today's workforce has the self-confidence to insist on better working conditions and a better life. At most they want to believe in the vote, but that's no risk, no reward. And votes never paved the way for unions, to the extent that they secured better lives for their members. People took serious risks. Smart UPS drivers b* about the new 22.4 combo drivers, but if you wanna see how low unions can go, take a look at the UAW's contract with Ford and GM after 2007-8. As far as I'm concerned, the end is nigh, the 'good jobs' are good as gone.</p><p></p><p>In sum: UPS is a real grind, but hey, you'll have 'something to show for it'. Amazon is just a gig.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whither, post: 4096646, member: 76643"] I think the main difference is UPS is still, for the time being, a viable career. And the trainers don't forget to remind you at every turn. It's less 'chill'. Now, granted, it is harder and more complex work: but, look, if you're a safe, competent, and reasonably sharp driver for Amazon, there's no reason why you couldn't meet UPS's [I]stated[/I] expectations. But I know enough about UPS, here and IRL, that whereas Amazon right now is happy to overlook reasons not to hire a driver, because their turnover is atrocious, you easily catch on that UPS is looking for reasons not to hire a driver (that is, a permanent, FT, union driver). There's something very 'old school' about UPS. For better and worse. On the whole I like it. While there's more surveillance and (for now!) idle threats than Amazon can muster, since Amazon does things the cheap, shoddy way and drivers treat it with the same attitude, ironically it seems more 'human' at UPS to me. Probably the lion's share of that is because of what happened in the 1930s. If UPS wasn't already union, then they'd be just like Amazon and FedEx, and that's obviously the direction the company is heading. I don't think today's workforce has the self-confidence to insist on better working conditions and a better life. At most they want to believe in the vote, but that's no risk, no reward. And votes never paved the way for unions, to the extent that they secured better lives for their members. People took serious risks. Smart UPS drivers b* about the new 22.4 combo drivers, but if you wanna see how low unions can go, take a look at the UAW's contract with Ford and GM after 2007-8. As far as I'm concerned, the end is nigh, the 'good jobs' are good as gone. In sum: UPS is a real grind, but hey, you'll have 'something to show for it'. Amazon is just a gig. [/QUOTE]
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