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<blockquote data-quote="dmac1" data-source="post: 3722358" data-attributes="member: 60252"><p>You need to put 2 and 2 together. They don't use salt in places like Phoenix where it doesn't snow. But in places like Flagstaff, they might. You said that in AZ the vans wouldn't get rusted. My point was that anywhere it snows INCLUDING AZ, you are more likely to get rust. Being in AZ doesn't mean you are safe, no matter what you think.</p><p></p><p>And since I am 63 and happily retired, I am not interested in working for anyone, including Amazon. But when some troll posts that Amazon contractors are going to be a target for unionizing efforts, in a comparison to fedex, I pointed out that there was no difference. You keep posting how terrible the deal looks to you, and claiming fedex is better because of this or that phony reason. When I see phoniness or mistakes in judgement I am going to point it out. If someone is choosing between a fedex ISP or Amazon ADP, i want them to make a decision based on more knowledge, and not decide based on fake 'propritary rights' that an Amazon ADP may or may not have. Even if not contractually allowed, an ADP might be able to 'hire' someone to manage his operation for him, and could even accept a 'fee' for it. And with needing to pay for propritary rights to get in, the value is really only the difference between current ISP contract value, and possible appreciation, possible depreciation, or just breaking even when you want out. </p><p></p><p>If you need to pay $150 k to buy into being an ISP, and 10 years later sell for $175k, you really made nothing considering you could have put that money into stocks, bonds, or even a savings account. If you pay nothing for an ADP position ($10k) and walk away with nothing 10 years later, but put your $150 into even something like real estate, you come out ahead. Proprietary rights you need to buy are not worth much. You seem like you are still in the mindset of 1003, or 2001, when fedex was giving away areas, and you didn't need to pay. Those days are gone, for all but the rarest cases, and you could LOSE all the proprietary rights with the next iteration of fedex ground.</p><p></p><p>And leasing directly from Amazon, at a wholesale vehicle value, that you can walk away from if you leave, in my opinion is MUCH better than being stuck with vehicles that you almost invariably will owe more on than the vehicle is worth should you want to walk away, or if you lose your contract, or if fedex changes how ground operates again. </p><p></p><p>Less risk, less investment for a potential $300k+ income is better than putting out potentially hundreds of thousands of your savings for a fedex ISP position where you operate 40 routes. </p><p></p><p>IF I was choosing now, or even if fedex was still 'giving away' routes, I would choose Amazon. Fedex has proven to be a deceitful partner. Sounds like you prefer a known bad partner to a potential good partner. I prefer the opposite.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dmac1, post: 3722358, member: 60252"] You need to put 2 and 2 together. They don't use salt in places like Phoenix where it doesn't snow. But in places like Flagstaff, they might. You said that in AZ the vans wouldn't get rusted. My point was that anywhere it snows INCLUDING AZ, you are more likely to get rust. Being in AZ doesn't mean you are safe, no matter what you think. And since I am 63 and happily retired, I am not interested in working for anyone, including Amazon. But when some troll posts that Amazon contractors are going to be a target for unionizing efforts, in a comparison to fedex, I pointed out that there was no difference. You keep posting how terrible the deal looks to you, and claiming fedex is better because of this or that phony reason. When I see phoniness or mistakes in judgement I am going to point it out. If someone is choosing between a fedex ISP or Amazon ADP, i want them to make a decision based on more knowledge, and not decide based on fake 'propritary rights' that an Amazon ADP may or may not have. Even if not contractually allowed, an ADP might be able to 'hire' someone to manage his operation for him, and could even accept a 'fee' for it. And with needing to pay for propritary rights to get in, the value is really only the difference between current ISP contract value, and possible appreciation, possible depreciation, or just breaking even when you want out. If you need to pay $150 k to buy into being an ISP, and 10 years later sell for $175k, you really made nothing considering you could have put that money into stocks, bonds, or even a savings account. If you pay nothing for an ADP position ($10k) and walk away with nothing 10 years later, but put your $150 into even something like real estate, you come out ahead. Proprietary rights you need to buy are not worth much. You seem like you are still in the mindset of 1003, or 2001, when fedex was giving away areas, and you didn't need to pay. Those days are gone, for all but the rarest cases, and you could LOSE all the proprietary rights with the next iteration of fedex ground. And leasing directly from Amazon, at a wholesale vehicle value, that you can walk away from if you leave, in my opinion is MUCH better than being stuck with vehicles that you almost invariably will owe more on than the vehicle is worth should you want to walk away, or if you lose your contract, or if fedex changes how ground operates again. Less risk, less investment for a potential $300k+ income is better than putting out potentially hundreds of thousands of your savings for a fedex ISP position where you operate 40 routes. IF I was choosing now, or even if fedex was still 'giving away' routes, I would choose Amazon. Fedex has proven to be a deceitful partner. Sounds like you prefer a known bad partner to a potential good partner. I prefer the opposite. [/QUOTE]
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