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<blockquote data-quote="refineryworker05" data-source="post: 3386963" data-attributes="member: 66082">I hope this is a lesson to people who debate republicans on here when they act faux outraged over this issue.They don&#039;t give a damn about it and so they lie and pretend to a large degree and create these irrelevant debates.&nbsp; If this gun thing was so important, then what Trump said would absolutely enrage these republicans, but they simply do not care.There is no getting around this simple fact, if guns truly mattered then what Trump said is a huge threat a much bigger one than the opinions of high school students. Here is what republicans truly care about outside of the ultra wealthy who just want government to function solely for their benefit, rank and file republicans see certain groups of Americans as net negatives and huge threats to the survival of America.Generally, republicans believe these groups to be criminal, lazy, dumb, immoral, violent, irresponsible and they believe the Democratic party to win elections is enabling more of these kinds of people to come here and overtake and change American society and culture.Republicans want those groups of Americans controlled and put in their place by the government, they don&#039;t want them helped by the government, they want to maintain the old hierarchy in American society.&nbsp; Now because of America&#039;s history a lot of this stuff is just racist and xenophobic beliefs about those other Americans.&nbsp; Although, republicans also want to control women&#039;s bodies and with whom they have sex, and they are generally extremely distrustful towards younger Americans as well.At the core of every republican policy debate it is about dominance and power and about who counts and who doesn&#039;t.Any other policy debate that isn&#039;t directly or indirectly about that stuff they don&#039;t care about.&nbsp; It is mostly just pretend.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="refineryworker05, post: 3386963, member: 66082"] I hope this is a lesson to people who debate republicans on here when they act faux outraged over this issue. They don't give a damn about it and so they lie and pretend to a large degree and create these irrelevant debates. If this gun thing was so important, then what Trump said would absolutely enrage these republicans, but they simply do not care. There is no getting around this simple fact, if guns truly mattered then what Trump said is a huge threat a much bigger one than the opinions of high school students. Here is what republicans truly care about outside of the ultra wealthy who just want government to function solely for their benefit, rank and file republicans see certain groups of Americans as net negatives and huge threats to the survival of America. Generally, republicans believe these groups to be criminal, lazy, dumb, immoral, violent, irresponsible and they believe the Democratic party to win elections is enabling more of these kinds of people to come here and overtake and change American society and culture. Republicans want those groups of Americans controlled and put in their place by the government, they don't want them helped by the government, they want to maintain the old hierarchy in American society. Now because of America's history a lot of this stuff is just racist and xenophobic beliefs about those other Americans. Although, republicans also want to control women's bodies and with whom they have sex, and they are generally extremely distrustful towards younger Americans as well. At the core of every republican policy debate it is about dominance and power and about who counts and who doesn't. Any other policy debate that isn't directly or indirectly about that stuff they don't care about. It is mostly just pretend. [/QUOTE]

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