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<blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 1275038" data-attributes="member: 14596"><p>I think the works councils could probably work very well in the US. My point is that, while I agree with jones that unions in Europe are very strong compared to American unions, US unions tend to have a more directly hostile and confrontational relationship with companies than in Europe. This is not meant as a slam against American unions, I believe building this hostile and confrontational culture stems from the fact that unions here have not been as successful as their European counterparts in changing the political environment, so they have had little choice. The works councils are an arena for hourly employees to work directly and cooperatively with management to solve policy and work environment issues. The last thing the unions want is their members working cooperatively with management to solve problems, they want their members to see them, the unions, as the solution to any issues. They will work to obstruct or undermine the work councils in any way they can. Ironically, US unions use fear tactics about the corporate boogie man to keep their membership compliant in the same way the GOP uses fear to keep their base in line. They both demonize their opponents and hold themselves as the only protection from them. </p><p></p><p>If UPS had adopted the "Work Teams" they originally wanted to, your issues related to 9.5 dispatch, harassment, car availability, you name it, could be resolved through the work teams. You would not need to ask your on-road to get dispatch resolved. There would be half or fewer on roads as there are today. One of the reasons these teams did not work was that the union actively and forcefully discouraged members from participating. Any one remember the fliers handed out, the "You don't need a work team, you already have a team, the Teamsters!"?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="brownIEman, post: 1275038, member: 14596"] I think the works councils could probably work very well in the US. My point is that, while I agree with jones that unions in Europe are very strong compared to American unions, US unions tend to have a more directly hostile and confrontational relationship with companies than in Europe. This is not meant as a slam against American unions, I believe building this hostile and confrontational culture stems from the fact that unions here have not been as successful as their European counterparts in changing the political environment, so they have had little choice. The works councils are an arena for hourly employees to work directly and cooperatively with management to solve policy and work environment issues. The last thing the unions want is their members working cooperatively with management to solve problems, they want their members to see them, the unions, as the solution to any issues. They will work to obstruct or undermine the work councils in any way they can. Ironically, US unions use fear tactics about the corporate boogie man to keep their membership compliant in the same way the GOP uses fear to keep their base in line. They both demonize their opponents and hold themselves as the only protection from them. If UPS had adopted the "Work Teams" they originally wanted to, your issues related to 9.5 dispatch, harassment, car availability, you name it, could be resolved through the work teams. You would not need to ask your on-road to get dispatch resolved. There would be half or fewer on roads as there are today. One of the reasons these teams did not work was that the union actively and forcefully discouraged members from participating. Any one remember the fliers handed out, the "You don't need a work team, you already have a team, the Teamsters!"? [/QUOTE]
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