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Another example of Central States mismanagement
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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 228275"><p><strong>Re: Does anyone want Engineer79 to run their benefit plans?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyone following the original exchange between myself and Engineer79 knows that I provided him with plenty of detail by pointing him to the Form 5500. But he was so intent on claiming that the Administration Expenses were stolen or squandered or embezzled or whatever, that I had to tell him in exasperation, that the form speaks for itself. It's a government form and it was filled out as instructed. If he wants still more detail, well, that's like reading the UPS Annual Report and still wanting more detail. I don't have access to that information. It's not my responsibility to provide it. Engineer79 should not conclude that the money was stolen, just because I can't provide even further details. </p><p></p><p>Nevertheless, I was able to find a Form 990 which had still more detail and I pointed him to it. He still was not satisfied. I would have to work for the Central States Fund itself to have access to the level of detail he wants. And of course I do not. If he read both forms that I linked to, he is in possession of more details than just about anybody outside the fund itself. How you can attempt to turn this around on me is unbelievable.</p><p></p><p>Also, please stop putting words in my mouth and attributing motives to me. You're doing it a lot lately. You don't know me, so you're just making things up to discredit me. It actually reflects poorly on you.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 228275"] [b]Re: Does anyone want Engineer79 to run their benefit plans?[/b] Anyone following the original exchange between myself and Engineer79 knows that I provided him with plenty of detail by pointing him to the Form 5500. But he was so intent on claiming that the Administration Expenses were stolen or squandered or embezzled or whatever, that I had to tell him in exasperation, that the form speaks for itself. It's a government form and it was filled out as instructed. If he wants still more detail, well, that's like reading the UPS Annual Report and still wanting more detail. I don't have access to that information. It's not my responsibility to provide it. Engineer79 should not conclude that the money was stolen, just because I can't provide even further details. Nevertheless, I was able to find a Form 990 which had still more detail and I pointed him to it. He still was not satisfied. I would have to work for the Central States Fund itself to have access to the level of detail he wants. And of course I do not. If he read both forms that I linked to, he is in possession of more details than just about anybody outside the fund itself. How you can attempt to turn this around on me is unbelievable. Also, please stop putting words in my mouth and attributing motives to me. You're doing it a lot lately. You don't know me, so you're just making things up to discredit me. It actually reflects poorly on you. [/QUOTE]
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