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<blockquote data-quote="canon" data-source="post: 166336" data-attributes="member: 8423"><p>Sorry took so long to respond... after my pizza last night I got sleepy.</p><p></p><p>A false choice in logic is the assertion that there are only two options... like when Bush said "you are either with us or against us" when talking about the fight against terrorism. In that false choice, it ignored the options like some might not agree with our plan of action, but still might want to fight terrorism. It serves to eliminate middle ground, establishing only two extremes for the opponent in a debate to chose. </p><p></p><p>The difference is, I get to make a decision based on my experience. Your assumption that I haven't included the middle ground is a category error of composition. In this context, the discussion was about state sponsored terrorism vs actions of freedom fighters. I never said *all* palestinians were guilty nor all Israeli actions innocent. It's not a logical fallacy to recognize one group targets civilians intentionally, and the other does not. For me to follow your reasoning, I would have to excuse suicide bombings of civilians and condemn Israeli defensive measures. </p><p></p><p>I condemn the actions of suicide bombers, the countries that support and harbor them, and the people who turn a blind eye to the practice. It's not a declaration of Israeli innocence in all matters to <em>side</em> with them against state sponsored terrorism. For that, I can find no middle ground for which to weigh against the actions of intentionally targeting women and children. I still side with Israel on this issue and it's still not a false choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="canon, post: 166336, member: 8423"] Sorry took so long to respond... after my pizza last night I got sleepy. A false choice in logic is the assertion that there are only two options... like when Bush said "you are either with us or against us" when talking about the fight against terrorism. In that false choice, it ignored the options like some might not agree with our plan of action, but still might want to fight terrorism. It serves to eliminate middle ground, establishing only two extremes for the opponent in a debate to chose. The difference is, I get to make a decision based on my experience. Your assumption that I haven't included the middle ground is a category error of composition. In this context, the discussion was about state sponsored terrorism vs actions of freedom fighters. I never said *all* palestinians were guilty nor all Israeli actions innocent. It's not a logical fallacy to recognize one group targets civilians intentionally, and the other does not. For me to follow your reasoning, I would have to excuse suicide bombings of civilians and condemn Israeli defensive measures. I condemn the actions of suicide bombers, the countries that support and harbor them, and the people who turn a blind eye to the practice. It's not a declaration of Israeli innocence in all matters to [I]side[/I] with them against state sponsored terrorism. For that, I can find no middle ground for which to weigh against the actions of intentionally targeting women and children. I still side with Israel on this issue and it's still not a false choice. [/QUOTE]
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