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<blockquote data-quote="Jones" data-source="post: 167787" data-attributes="member: 4805"><p>I'm not sure what you mean by legitimate source, nor am I trying to discredit anyone. Are you saying that Fleischer came up with that reasoning on his own? I am fully aware that the govt has a "legal team", but what does that have to do with anything? You seemed to be quoting the press secretary in particular as if the fact that he said something gave it added weight, my point was that he's simply the public face of the adminstration and the argument doesn't gain any credibility because he repeated it. If, on the other hand, someone who was versed in international law and had no dog in this particular fight made the argument it would be a different story.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> If you know why it was drafted, I have to ask why you are quoting Fleischer? He's no more an authority than you or I. And no, you don't have to post any more quotes from Ari Fleischer, we can all read the <a href="http://www.un.org/Docs/scres/1990/scres90.htm" target="_blank">resolutions</a>.</p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> I'm not sure you want to go down that road, at least if you're concerned about Israel's current borders. I personally have no desire to see 242 implemented.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> I never said any such thing, and why would I? It's all very well for you to claim we acted under UN authority, but if that was the case then why was General Powell at the UN trying to convince them(unsuccessfully) to authorise the use of force that you say they had already authorised? It seems like a rather backwards way of going about things.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> Was this last directed at me? If so I'm honestly not sure what it is in reference to. I agree with you that assigning "guilt" won't get us out of Iraq though, so there's a positive <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/wink.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":wink:" title="Wink :wink:" data-shortname=":wink:" />.</p><p></p><p> Take care</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jones, post: 167787, member: 4805"] I'm not sure what you mean by legitimate source, nor am I trying to discredit anyone. Are you saying that Fleischer came up with that reasoning on his own? I am fully aware that the govt has a "legal team", but what does that have to do with anything? You seemed to be quoting the press secretary in particular as if the fact that he said something gave it added weight, my point was that he's simply the public face of the adminstration and the argument doesn't gain any credibility because he repeated it. If, on the other hand, someone who was versed in international law and had no dog in this particular fight made the argument it would be a different story. If you know why it was drafted, I have to ask why you are quoting Fleischer? He's no more an authority than you or I. And no, you don't have to post any more quotes from Ari Fleischer, we can all read the [URL="http://www.un.org/Docs/scres/1990/scres90.htm"]resolutions[/URL]. I'm not sure you want to go down that road, at least if you're concerned about Israel's current borders. I personally have no desire to see 242 implemented. I never said any such thing, and why would I? It's all very well for you to claim we acted under UN authority, but if that was the case then why was General Powell at the UN trying to convince them(unsuccessfully) to authorise the use of force that you say they had already authorised? It seems like a rather backwards way of going about things. Was this last directed at me? If so I'm honestly not sure what it is in reference to. I agree with you that assigning "guilt" won't get us out of Iraq though, so there's a positive :wink:. Take care [/QUOTE]
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