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<blockquote data-quote="nospinzone" data-source="post: 165348" data-attributes="member: 1335"><p><strong>APWA- Divide and Move Forward</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>Show me examples of how IBT tried to avoid the current situation. Cuts after cuts in benefits have yet to stop the bleeding. Their one hope of using UPS Freight pension money to improve funding is now even slipping away. Show me examples where they have a plan to reverse their failures. Yes the IBT was successful twenty years ago, but the competition is tighter, the economy is tighter, the labor laws have changed, and yet they have failed to adapt so as to protect its members. Their failures in this area now leave the IBT weakened in their attempts to recover. Their current model cannot succeed and is doomed for failure. To continue to stay with this sinking ship requires an ostrich mentality (ie...ignorance is bliss with your head in a hole). UPS is responsible for providing pension contributions only for UPS employees. It is not their responsibility to provide a pension for the other 800,000 Teamsters; so expectations of UPS to pony up more money are likely to go unfulfilled. <em>You require previous results to validate the APWA's attempts yet you fail to offer solutions or expectations of the IBT to succeed.</em></p><p></p><p>Your continued position that a lack of a track record nullifies the APWA's efforts has been proven wrong by our pilots. They recognized the downward spiral the IBT is stuck in. They chose to act for themselves and to take control of their destiny without relying on some other entity with the experience to do the work for them. I imagine that during their decert effort there were skeptics such as yourself who feared change, but look how they now are in full control of their future. The only people who can influence the pilot union.........are pilots. What a novel idea. Take a look at the <a href="http://www.ipapilot.org/" target="_blank">IPA's website</a> and notice the autonomy these guys have. Read over the history of their union and take notice of how they made the personal decision to get off the sinking ship. And how <strong>UPS pilots personally took control of their future.</strong> Check out the participation that follows such autonomy. In their last general election, there was a <strong>80.9% voter participation rate.</strong> When was the last time you heard of such voter participation amongst Teamsters? Or among UPS employees? If we allowed another union to organize UPS employees, in the short term it would give you some peace of mind, but in the long run that would only open another door/opportunity for the UPS employee to be exploited.</p><p>JMHO</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nospinzone, post: 165348, member: 1335"] [b]APWA- Divide and Move Forward[/b] Show me examples of how IBT tried to avoid the current situation. Cuts after cuts in benefits have yet to stop the bleeding. Their one hope of using UPS Freight pension money to improve funding is now even slipping away. Show me examples where they have a plan to reverse their failures. Yes the IBT was successful twenty years ago, but the competition is tighter, the economy is tighter, the labor laws have changed, and yet they have failed to adapt so as to protect its members. Their failures in this area now leave the IBT weakened in their attempts to recover. Their current model cannot succeed and is doomed for failure. To continue to stay with this sinking ship requires an ostrich mentality (ie...ignorance is bliss with your head in a hole). UPS is responsible for providing pension contributions only for UPS employees. It is not their responsibility to provide a pension for the other 800,000 Teamsters; so expectations of UPS to pony up more money are likely to go unfulfilled. [I]You require previous results to validate the APWA's attempts yet you fail to offer solutions or expectations of the IBT to succeed.[/I] Your continued position that a lack of a track record nullifies the APWA's efforts has been proven wrong by our pilots. They recognized the downward spiral the IBT is stuck in. They chose to act for themselves and to take control of their destiny without relying on some other entity with the experience to do the work for them. I imagine that during their decert effort there were skeptics such as yourself who feared change, but look how they now are in full control of their future. The only people who can influence the pilot union.........are pilots. What a novel idea. Take a look at the [URL="http://www.ipapilot.org/"]IPA's website[/URL] and notice the autonomy these guys have. Read over the history of their union and take notice of how they made the personal decision to get off the sinking ship. And how [B]UPS pilots personally took control of their future.[/B] Check out the participation that follows such autonomy. In their last general election, there was a [B]80.9% voter participation rate.[/B] When was the last time you heard of such voter participation amongst Teamsters? Or among UPS employees? If we allowed another union to organize UPS employees, in the short term it would give you some peace of mind, but in the long run that would only open another door/opportunity for the UPS employee to be exploited. JMHO [/QUOTE]
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