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<blockquote data-quote="denverbrown" data-source="post: 171197" data-attributes="member: 517"><p>I have some concerns about APWA. I've read that their lawyer, Tom Coleman, has made a career of union busting, but now if we dangle enough money in front of him he will come over to the Union cause and build the strongest Union UPS has ever seen. Does this guy not have any passion for what he has spent his life doing? Does he have no personal feeling about unions? If he is just a whore for the money than how much money will it take to get him to abandon a lucrative career fighting unions and join the labor side? And where will that money come from? Our dues will be the only source of money to the APWA and how much of my dues will they give this whore?</p><p> The claim that the UPS Pilots Union broke off from the Teamsters and formed a strong union is like comparing apples and oranges. A union is only as strong as it's members' make it. When the pilots voted on their last contract, the participation was over 90%. The members make that union strong. Our last contract vote had far less than a 50% participation. The average UPS Teamster is not highly educated or highly motivated like an airline pilot. They don't participate in Union activities and without their enthusiam, APWA will be no stronger than the Teamsters. </p><p> The claim that APWA will bring bigger defined pension benefits to UPS members is almost a mute point, but it's their biggest selling point. Defined benefit pensions are dead. UPS no longer gives a defined benefit pension to management, they changed to a defined contribution pension months ago. FedEx announced this week that they will cap their defined benefit pensions in 2008 and roll them over to a cash balance plan and all new hires will have a defined contribution plan. Every major company today is dumping their defined benefit plans. So for APWA to sell themselves on the notion that they will wrestle a larger defined benefit pension from UPS is nuts. Why would UPS give a new union a defined benefit pension? That doesn't make sense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="denverbrown, post: 171197, member: 517"] I have some concerns about APWA. I've read that their lawyer, Tom Coleman, has made a career of union busting, but now if we dangle enough money in front of him he will come over to the Union cause and build the strongest Union UPS has ever seen. Does this guy not have any passion for what he has spent his life doing? Does he have no personal feeling about unions? If he is just a whore for the money than how much money will it take to get him to abandon a lucrative career fighting unions and join the labor side? And where will that money come from? Our dues will be the only source of money to the APWA and how much of my dues will they give this whore? The claim that the UPS Pilots Union broke off from the Teamsters and formed a strong union is like comparing apples and oranges. A union is only as strong as it's members' make it. When the pilots voted on their last contract, the participation was over 90%. The members make that union strong. Our last contract vote had far less than a 50% participation. The average UPS Teamster is not highly educated or highly motivated like an airline pilot. They don't participate in Union activities and without their enthusiam, APWA will be no stronger than the Teamsters. The claim that APWA will bring bigger defined pension benefits to UPS members is almost a mute point, but it's their biggest selling point. Defined benefit pensions are dead. UPS no longer gives a defined benefit pension to management, they changed to a defined contribution pension months ago. FedEx announced this week that they will cap their defined benefit pensions in 2008 and roll them over to a cash balance plan and all new hires will have a defined contribution plan. Every major company today is dumping their defined benefit plans. So for APWA to sell themselves on the notion that they will wrestle a larger defined benefit pension from UPS is nuts. Why would UPS give a new union a defined benefit pension? That doesn't make sense. [/QUOTE]
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