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<blockquote data-quote="RockyRogue" data-source="post: 175390" data-attributes="member: 7185"><p>First, thank you for agreeing with me. As you can see, I just went another round with a poster over this. He never seems to learn. I'll get to him in a second. The Teamster union is a failing organization in every regard--financially, leadership and membership. I have a problem with the Union not living up the agreed upon payout, too. Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it. Organizations fail, investments fail. In this case, it sounds like the two catastrophically collided and/or occurred at the same time. Its very sad its happened, too. Now, on to Goose...</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>Assuming? No, I think not, Goose. If you weren't concerned about your retirement, you wouldn't be posting on here <strong>screaming</strong> foullllll about the Teamster's pension mess. Regardless, your savings for retirement are your business. Total accountability? <strong>WTF</strong> are you talking about? There's nothing <strong>I</strong> can do about the pension mess. Maybe I just had the benefit of watching all this unravel but still...BrownStars made a good point about "all your eggs in one basket!" And trust the IBT no end? You're nucking futs there, pal. The best person to fight for <strong>your</strong> interests is <em>you!!!</em> You let someone else fight your battles for you and there's a good chance you'll get the short end of the stick. I don't trust <strong>anyone</strong> to manage my finances or retirement completely. Help? Suuuure, <strong>love it</strong>. However, I think I'll cap my expectation out at 40-50% of total retirement funds. Completely manage <strong>my </strong>retirement? <strong><em>H*LL</em></strong> no!!! And what the h*ll are you talking about with "program?" I'm lost there. I'd have no problem with a UPS only fund. In fact, didn't I see somewhere on this board that there <strong>is</strong> a UPS-<strong>only</strong> pension fund for part-timers? Do you full-timers want in that?? If so...make it happen. Howl at whomever you have to--corporate UPS, local Teamsters, <strong>whatever</strong>. Otherwise, stop b*%$hing and moaning on here about something you might be able to do something about but refuse to do so. Its called personal responsibility or motivation, I think. Your turn...-Rocky</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RockyRogue, post: 175390, member: 7185"] First, thank you for agreeing with me. As you can see, I just went another round with a poster over this. He never seems to learn. I'll get to him in a second. The Teamster union is a failing organization in every regard--financially, leadership and membership. I have a problem with the Union not living up the agreed upon payout, too. Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it. Organizations fail, investments fail. In this case, it sounds like the two catastrophically collided and/or occurred at the same time. Its very sad its happened, too. Now, on to Goose... Assuming? No, I think not, Goose. If you weren't concerned about your retirement, you wouldn't be posting on here [B]screaming[/B] foullllll about the Teamster's pension mess. Regardless, your savings for retirement are your business. Total accountability? [B]WTF[/B] are you talking about? There's nothing [B]I[/B] can do about the pension mess. Maybe I just had the benefit of watching all this unravel but still...BrownStars made a good point about "all your eggs in one basket!" And trust the IBT no end? You're nucking futs there, pal. The best person to fight for [B]your[/B] interests is [I]you!!![/I] You let someone else fight your battles for you and there's a good chance you'll get the short end of the stick. I don't trust [B]anyone[/B] to manage my finances or retirement completely. Help? Suuuure, [B]love it[/B]. However, I think I'll cap my expectation out at 40-50% of total retirement funds. Completely manage [B]my [/B]retirement? [B][I]H*LL[/I][/B] no!!! And what the h*ll are you talking about with "program?" I'm lost there. I'd have no problem with a UPS only fund. In fact, didn't I see somewhere on this board that there [B]is[/B] a UPS-[B]only[/B] pension fund for part-timers? Do you full-timers want in that?? If so...make it happen. Howl at whomever you have to--corporate UPS, local Teamsters, [B]whatever[/B]. Otherwise, stop b*%$hing and moaning on here about something you might be able to do something about but refuse to do so. Its called personal responsibility or motivation, I think. Your turn...-Rocky [/QUOTE]
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