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Message: <blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1138931" data-attributes="member: 2189">There again is why I think you'd appreciate Sheldrake as he speaks of science and religion as once united so to speak before materialism in the 16th century pulled the 2 apart.  And I'm not convinced both sides didn't want it so anyway but that's just me.  I always found the so-called conflict between science and religion a bit like the alleged conflict of the fictional Spacing Guild and the Bene Gesserit in Frank Herbert's Sci-Fi classic Dune.  The real goal of both was not about truth but in reality was all about power and control.  In the end, the Fremen seem to prove both as wrong and exposed the lies they told to maintain their power.</blockquote>