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<blockquote data-quote="Upsmule" data-source="post: 1166795" data-attributes="member: 45962"><p><em><p style="text-align: left"><span style="color: #000000">"All the shizzola y'all are quoting was written centuries past Jesus' death"</span></p></em></p><p style="text-align: left"><em><span style="color: #000000"></span></p><p></em>Any honest scholar agrees that the only texts written centuries after Jesus' death are commonly referred to as the gnostic texts. (Not gnostic gospels btw). And I get it...honest I do, one could easily negate Matthew Mark Luke and John and all of the things they supposedly saw and wrote down, or even the things a former Christian torturer/Pharisee, turned convert and Missionary saw did and recorded. But something obviously big happened back then. Big enough to have us all even to this day tell keep time by it "In the year of our Lord 2013 AD." Either this one of many christ's was who he said he was, and came out of the grave on the third day like he said he would.....then proceeded to reveal himself to those who then went out and spread the word....or he didn't. There can be no middle ground on this one. </p><p></p><p>Again, there's no proof obviously. But plenty of evidence to honestly weigh. For one, think of the role of women in that day and culture. They couldn't even testify in a court of law, yet these "rag tag" fishermen decided to fool the world by having WOMEN be the ones to first discover an empty tomb on the third day while they cowered hiding in a locked room fearing they'd be killed next. This should show to anyone with an open mind that, the gospel writers were faithful to record what really happened, even if it was painfully embarrassing. Then....even more amazing to me is, these rag tag unlearned fisherman turned an entire empire upside down. Yeah, some might face torture and being vilified and die cruel cruel horrendous deaths for what they believed to be true...but its more than ridiculous that they or anyone would be willing to go through such tortuous deaths for a known lie?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upsmule, post: 1166795, member: 45962"] [I][LEFT][COLOR=#000000]"All the shizzola y'all are quoting was written centuries past Jesus' death" [/COLOR][/LEFT][/I] Any honest scholar agrees that the only texts written centuries after Jesus' death are commonly referred to as the gnostic texts. (Not gnostic gospels btw). And I get it...honest I do, one could easily negate Matthew Mark Luke and John and all of the things they supposedly saw and wrote down, or even the things a former Christian torturer/Pharisee, turned convert and Missionary saw did and recorded. But something obviously big happened back then. Big enough to have us all even to this day tell keep time by it "In the year of our Lord 2013 AD." Either this one of many christ's was who he said he was, and came out of the grave on the third day like he said he would.....then proceeded to reveal himself to those who then went out and spread the word....or he didn't. There can be no middle ground on this one. Again, there's no proof obviously. But plenty of evidence to honestly weigh. For one, think of the role of women in that day and culture. They couldn't even testify in a court of law, yet these "rag tag" fishermen decided to fool the world by having WOMEN be the ones to first discover an empty tomb on the third day while they cowered hiding in a locked room fearing they'd be killed next. This should show to anyone with an open mind that, the gospel writers were faithful to record what really happened, even if it was painfully embarrassing. Then....even more amazing to me is, these rag tag unlearned fisherman turned an entire empire upside down. Yeah, some might face torture and being vilified and die cruel cruel horrendous deaths for what they believed to be true...but its more than ridiculous that they or anyone would be willing to go through such tortuous deaths for a known lie? [/QUOTE]
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