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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 973915" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>As to the back pain, the cause is a sprained hip and I have a very high threshold for pain but I can tell you that this hurts. I was doing really good yesterday and then last night I slept wrong (we think the root cause is mattress related) and this morning it was not good. Just got back from the doctor and I was hoping to go back to work Monday but that is now on hold. Likely mid-week at this point. My daughter is traveling doing some music gigs so I'm going to sleep on her bed (very firm mattress) and see how that works. If it does, we or at least my wife is off to buy a new mattress tomorrow. Problem is our mattress is custom made, my long legs hang off standard length King so how quick but we are going direct to the maker so hopefully in a couple of days. Appreciate the thoughts.</p><p></p><p>There is much to which I could respond here but I think the first order would be to answer why and how a believing christian could or would ever abandon faith? How can that process ever occur beyond "sinful pride"? My own journey took 2 decades and didn't happen all at once but like Mike Aus pointed out, the layers and layers began to become peeled away until very little was left. I could tell you the process but 2 decades worth would take time. Since what you asked about is how could such happen and what is the process, I'd suggest the documentary, <a href="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/why-i-am-no-longer-a-christian/" target="_blank"><span style="color: #ff0000">"Why I Am No Longer A Christian"</span></a> which I found at the Top Documentary Films website. It is over 3 hours long but broken up into YouTube segments, it makes for easy watching and then stopping to come back later and pick up should you choose too. At the very least, watch the first 2 segments which total less than 10 minutes where Chris talks about his christian life and the fact that he was a christian and Chris also gives this life deep respect. This video series is about him and not about what you or anyone else should believe as true. If you really want to know how a christian goes from A to B and rationalizes or resolves it, this documentary film which BTW is not completed yet will give you a good idea of how that process might work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 973915, member: 2189"] As to the back pain, the cause is a sprained hip and I have a very high threshold for pain but I can tell you that this hurts. I was doing really good yesterday and then last night I slept wrong (we think the root cause is mattress related) and this morning it was not good. Just got back from the doctor and I was hoping to go back to work Monday but that is now on hold. Likely mid-week at this point. My daughter is traveling doing some music gigs so I'm going to sleep on her bed (very firm mattress) and see how that works. If it does, we or at least my wife is off to buy a new mattress tomorrow. Problem is our mattress is custom made, my long legs hang off standard length King so how quick but we are going direct to the maker so hopefully in a couple of days. Appreciate the thoughts. There is much to which I could respond here but I think the first order would be to answer why and how a believing christian could or would ever abandon faith? How can that process ever occur beyond "sinful pride"? My own journey took 2 decades and didn't happen all at once but like Mike Aus pointed out, the layers and layers began to become peeled away until very little was left. I could tell you the process but 2 decades worth would take time. Since what you asked about is how could such happen and what is the process, I'd suggest the documentary, [URL="http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/why-i-am-no-longer-a-christian/"][COLOR=#ff0000]"Why I Am No Longer A Christian"[/COLOR][/URL] which I found at the Top Documentary Films website. It is over 3 hours long but broken up into YouTube segments, it makes for easy watching and then stopping to come back later and pick up should you choose too. At the very least, watch the first 2 segments which total less than 10 minutes where Chris talks about his christian life and the fact that he was a christian and Chris also gives this life deep respect. This video series is about him and not about what you or anyone else should believe as true. If you really want to know how a christian goes from A to B and rationalizes or resolves it, this documentary film which BTW is not completed yet will give you a good idea of how that process might work. [/QUOTE]
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