Biden or Trump

Biden or Trump


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The big package

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Mike McCormick who was a White House stenographer from the Bush administration through the Obama administration , a completely independent person who was with Biden all the time said Biden is not the same person he used to be , he said Biden is clearly a shell of what he use to be, and said he's not all there . It just a confirmation that the people that vote for him are not all there either!!!
 

newfie

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refineryworker05

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One thing, I have noticed over the years at my place of employment, is how people who identify as republicans no longer discuss policy issues. I am surrounded by white men mostly without college degrees, who are mostly in their 30's to 60's and who make relative to other American workers, high incomes. I remember them debating the Iraq war and the war on terror, or talking about "gay marriage", or guns, or gold, or all manner of stuff I didn't agree with, but at least they were discussing actual policy issues.

Now they discuss how Kaepernick kneeling was disrespecting the flag when that was happening a few years ago, or how Hilary Clinton is a serial killer, how the media hates trump, how socialism is bad, covid is a hoax, an experiment in government control, how trump is fighting a secret war against Hollywood and democratic party pedophiles or voter fraud is a huge hidden problem.

It seems that all of the stuff they used to pretend to care about, are irrelevant, they don't discuss actual problems facing Americans, they want to discuss "culture war" fictional nonsense or strange conspiracies.

Whether trump wins or loses, what policies do his supporters actually want? I have no idea.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
republicans are consumed with conspiracies and nonsense. I have no idea what policy that supposed to represent or what that means. Its just untrue nonsense.
If you can't face the undeniable fact that left wing losers have pushed conspiracy theories for 4 years, then I'll just let you keep crying your communist tears into the abyss.
Carry on.
 

refineryworker05

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If you can't face the undeniable fact that left wing losers have pushed conspiracy theories for 4 years, then I'll just let you keep crying your communist tears into the abyss.
Carry on.
I have no idea why you posted that. I am talking about a thing that was recorded. trump said it. he told the media elite the truth about covid, while lying to his supporters about covid. Why does the media elite deserve to hear the truth from trump while he denies that truth to his supporters?
trump continues to humiliate his voters.
 

vantexan

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One thing, I have noticed over the years at my place of employment, is how people who identify as republicans no longer discuss policy issues. I am surrounded by white men mostly without college degrees, who are mostly in their 30's to 60's and who make relative to other American workers, high incomes. I remember them debating the Iraq war and the war on terror, or talking about "gay marriage", or guns, or gold, or all manner of stuff I didn't agree with, but at least they were discussing actual policy issues.

Now they discuss how Kaepernick kneeling was disrespecting the flag when that was happening a few years ago, or how Hilary Clinton is a serial killer, how the media hates trump, how socialism is bad, covid is a hoax, an experiment in government control, how trump is fighting a secret war against Hollywood and democratic party pedophiles or voter fraud is a huge hidden problem.

It seems that all of the stuff they used to pretend to care about, are irrelevant, they don't discuss actual problems facing Americans, they want to discuss "culture war" fictional nonsense or strange conspiracies.

Whether trump wins or loses, what policies do his supporters actually want? I have no idea.
Maybe you should discuss how Trump is trying to get us out of these endless wars. Getting pushback from Washington for even suggesting it.
 

vantexan

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More conspiracy theories.
You should be embarrassed.
It's a real thing. Bob Woodward did a bunch of recorded interviews with Trump in early February. Trump told him that he had spoke with the Chinese president who told him that the virus was deadly and it was spread through the air. Two weeks later Trump said it was just another Democrat hoax. To be fair the Dems were calling him xenophobic for stopping all flights to and from China. And were encouraging people to ignore Trump and go to celebrations, ride public transport, etc. But Trump is the president and should have jumped on it as soon as he heard how dangerous it is. I suspect Woodward released it before the first debate to give people something to think about besides Biden's debate performance. But not a good look for Trump.
 

vantexan

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No he didn't.
He was referring to them blaming it all on him, and he's right, that is the hoax they're still pushing to this day.
At that time he was saying it was just a few cases and would go away. Heard him talk about it yesterday. Said he was surprised it got as bad as it did. But early on he said he was downplaying it to prevent panic. Of course they were blaming it all on him when it's not the president's job to run efforts in each state to control it. But if the Chinese president tells him it's really bad, and he chooses to sit on that, even saying the virus is a Democrat hoax, which he clearly did, saw that rally, then he missed the opportunity to get things shutdown sooner and get people wearing masks. Might not have made much difference, but it might have saved a lot of lives too.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
At that time he was saying it was just a few cases
It was.
Check the :censored2:ing timeline this isn't complicated.
Said he was surprised it got as bad as it did. But early on he said he was downplaying it to prevent panic.
Yes because the scientists told him that it wouldn't.

Fauci is on video saying it wouldn't get bad. Why would he panic people for an outbreak the scientists said probably wouldn't happen.
 

refineryworker05

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Maybe you should discuss how Trump is trying to get us out of these endless wars. Getting pushback from Washington for even suggesting it.
Sure as soon as trump discusses that policy at all himself. and in a coherent manner. Instead trump talks absolute gibberish most of the time, stuff about boat parades, and hating the media, and how its all unfair to him, blah, blah, blah, how he has done more for black Americans than any other president in US history, pure fictional nonsense. trump rarely discusses policy.
 
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