Biden or Trump

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It will be fine

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Again, the Chinese were making sure that Biden didn't upset their great deal selling stuff to the U.S. For all we know Biden put the screws to them, threatening to put on sanctions or something. Just because we aren't privy to what happened didn't mean something wasn't agreed to. For some mysterious reason Biden's son got $1.5 billion for his little firm that consisted of him, John Kerry's stepson, and Whitey Bulger's son. For a private equity deal that none of them have experience in. I guess you think there's absolutely nothing suspicious about it. The Chinese are swell fellows who like to throw billions around. OKkkkkkkkkkk........ 😁
Got it. 9-11 was an inside job. Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams!
 

zimbomb

Well-Known Member
If you say so. Must be demoralizing to realize that your side were the crooks all along while Trump is truly the greatest president since Reagan, if not ever.
Crooks?

Unlike the waste of time and tax payer money purely political "unmasking". That one dubbed "obamagate", no charges, no report. This is how to run a proper investigation...

• 22 months

• Cost ~$25mil, but netted ~$48mil from unpaid taxes/fines/seized assets. ~100% ROI.

• 34 Indictments (individuals)

• 3 Indictments (companies)

• 7 guilty pleas and counting

• 1 conviction and counting


Some of the players:

• Indicted: Roger Stone - Guilty, Commuted

• Indicted: Paul Manafort

• Indicted: Rick Gates

• Indicted: George Papadopoulos

• Indicted: Michael Flynn

• Indicted: Michael Cohen

• Indicted: Richard Pinedo

• Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan

• Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik

• Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers

• Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin

• Indicted: Mikhail Burchik

• Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova

• Indicted: Anna Bogacheva

• Indicted: Sergey Polozov

• Indicted: Maria Bovda

• Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov

• Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev

• Indicted: Irina Kaverzina

• Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko

• Indicted: Internet Research Agency

• Indicted: Concord Management

• Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn

• Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen

• Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous

• Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo

• Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan

• Guilty Plea: Rick Gates

• Guilty Plea: Paul Manafort (some charges)

• Found Guilty: Paul Manafort (some charges)


Some of the charges (191 and counting):

• Conspiracy against the USA (4 counts)

• Obstruction of justice (1 count)

• Obstruction of Proceeding (1 count)

• Conspiracy to obstruct justice (2 counts)

• Witness Tampering (1 count)

• Making false statements (10 counts)

• Failure to report foreign bank and financial accounts (7 counts)

• Conspiracy to defraud the United States (4 counts)

• Aggravated identity theft (28 counts)

• Identity fraud (1 count)

• Bank fraud (4 counts)

• Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)

• Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (1 count)

• Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)

• Filing a false amended return (1 count)

• Subscribing to false tax returns (5 counts)

• Assisting in preparation of false tax returns (5 counts)
 

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vantexan

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Crooks?

Unlike the waste of time and tax payer money purely political "unmasking". That one dubbed "obamagate", no charges, no report. This is how to run a proper investigation...

• 22 months

• Cost ~$25mil, but netted ~$48mil from unpaid taxes/fines/seized assets. ~100% ROI.

• 34 Indictments (individuals)

• 3 Indictments (companies)

• 7 guilty pleas and counting

• 1 conviction and counting


Some of the players:

• Indicted: Roger Stone - Guilty, Commuted

• Indicted: Paul Manafort

• Indicted: Rick Gates

• Indicted: George Papadopoulos

• Indicted: Michael Flynn

• Indicted: Michael Cohen

• Indicted: Richard Pinedo

• Indicted: Alex van der Zwaan

• Indicted: Konstantin Kilimnik

• Indicted: 12 Russian GRU officers

• Indicted: Yevgeny Prigozhin

• Indicted: Mikhail Burchik

• Indicted: Aleksandra Krylova

• Indicted: Anna Bogacheva

• Indicted: Sergey Polozov

• Indicted: Maria Bovda

• Indicted: Dzheykhun Aslanov

• Indicted: Vadim Podkopaev

• Indicted: Irina Kaverzina

• Indicted: Gleb Vasilchenko

• Indicted: Internet Research Agency

• Indicted: Concord Management

• Guilty Plea: Michael Flynn

• Guilty Plea: Michael Cohen

• Guilty Plea: George Papadopolous

• Guilty Plea: Richard Pinedo

• Guilty Plea: Alex van der Zwaan

• Guilty Plea: Rick Gates

• Guilty Plea: Paul Manafort (some charges)

• Found Guilty: Paul Manafort (some charges)


Some of the charges (191 and counting):

• Conspiracy against the USA (4 counts)

• Obstruction of justice (1 count)

• Obstruction of Proceeding (1 count)

• Conspiracy to obstruct justice (2 counts)

• Witness Tampering (1 count)

• Making false statements (10 counts)

• Failure to report foreign bank and financial accounts (7 counts)

• Conspiracy to defraud the United States (4 counts)

• Aggravated identity theft (28 counts)

• Identity fraud (1 count)

• Bank fraud (4 counts)

• Bank fraud conspiracy (10 counts)

• Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud (1 count)

• Conspiracy to launder money (2 counts)

• Filing a false amended return (1 count)

• Subscribing to false tax returns (5 counts)

• Assisting in preparation of false tax returns (5 counts)
And some of those convictions were nothing more than political hit jobs. None of this would have ever happened if Trump hadn't won the presidency. Notice nothing got Trump indicted or convicted. And if you're going to compare those convictions with what Joe and Hunter are doing you're going to come up miles short.
 

It will be fine

Well-Known Member
And some of those convictions were nothing more than political hit jobs. None of this would have ever happened if Trump hadn't won the presidency. Notice nothing got Trump indicted or convicted. And if you're going to compare those convictions with what Joe and Hunter are doing you're going to come up miles short.
Yes actual convicted crimes are miles away from your alleged unnamed crimes of innuendo.
 

zimbomb

Well-Known Member
And some of those convictions were nothing more than political hit jobs. None of this would have ever happened if Trump hadn't won the presidency. Notice nothing got Trump indicted or convicted. And if you're going to compare those convictions with what Joe and Hunter are doing you're going to come up miles short.
The friends you keep. The Obama administration with Joe Biden as VP had 0 criminal indictments. No one
 
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