Bush worst president ever?

unionman

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Where will old W end up on the list? Historians are already saying he will be in the top five worst presidents in the history of the United States.
 

brett636

Well-Known Member
Most historians are liberal so I would not be surprised if they tried to ruin his good name. Its not like every other liberal media outlet, newspaper, etc. is still trying to do to this day. I say he is 100x better than the President we find ourselves stuck with today. Definitly not one of the best, but nowhere near the worst either.
 

tieguy

Banned
Historically he can't be a top five worst because he was actually reelected to a second term by a popular vote that is actually greater then Obamas margin of victory.

He'll rate very highly on leadership and leading by conviction.

The fact that he was much more a socialist then conservative economically will appeal to the liberal historians.

When a historian does an objective evaluation of the economic woes Bush left with they will see six years of success with a republican congress and the last two years of disaster with a democratic congress. Those are the facts.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
How many Americans know, for example, that as a sitting U.S. senator in 2006, Obama interfered in a Kenyan election, publicly ripping the incumbent government (a U.S. ally) for corruption while he was its guest and barnstorming with his preferred candidate: a Marxist now known to have made a secret agreement with Islamists to convert Kenya to sharia law, and whose supporters, upon losing the election, committed murder and mayhem, displacing thousands of Kenyans and plunging their country into utter chaos?
 

JimJimmyJames

Big Time Feeder Driver
Wilson or LBJ would be higher up the line than Bush.

Wilson tried to make the world "safe for democracy" and started a chain of events that lead to WWII and the host of horrors that brought to the world.

LBJ really got the ball rolling with the welfare state, plus gave us immigration "reform". Let's also not forget his brilliant leadership in the Vietnam War.
 

diesel96

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Today's hypocrasy lesson.....The fringe of the population who say "lets wait and see how history judges GW Bush", have already judged Pres Obama as the worst President ever, after only 6 months.....:rofl:....and he's just starting to scratched the surface of the damage left behind the Bush/Cheney regime....

And Tie, the same old silly argument about the Dem Congress with Bush's last two years still doesn't hold water....The 110th Congress were elected to tell Bush and the Rep's "NO" but caved in to almost every peice of legislation the neo-cons ask for...They were no different from the previous congress...hence their popularity was negative even with Demcratic voters...
 

tieguy

Banned
Today's hypocrasy lesson.....The fringe of the population who say "lets wait and see how history judges GW Bush", have already judged Pres Obama as the worst President ever, after only 6 months.........and he's just starting to scratched the surface of the damage left behind the Bush/Cheney regime....

And Tie, the same old silly argument about the Dem Congress with Bush's last two years still doesn't hold water....The 110th Congress were elected to tell Bush and the Rep's "NO" but caved in to almost every peice of legislation the neo-cons ask for...They were no different from the previous congress...hence their popularity was negative even with Demcratic voters...

While we're on the subject I imagine Bush will certainly rate higher then Clinton in those catogories that involve keeping your penis in your pants. For some reason Bush was able to control his while Clinton frequently exposed his.:rofl:
 

tieguy

Banned
Wilson or LBJ would be higher up the line than Bush.

Wilson tried to make the world "safe for democracy" and started a chain of events that lead to WWII and the host of horrors that brought to the world.

LBJ really got the ball rolling with the welfare state, plus gave us immigration "reform". Let's also not forget his brilliant leadership in the Vietnam War.

I would think LBJ and Carter would both be strong candidates for the bottom 5 in presidencys as single termers that left their office in leadership disgrace.
 

wkmac

Well-Known Member
Today's hypocrasy lesson.....The fringe of the population who say "lets wait and see how history judges GW Bush", have already judged Pres Obama as the worst President ever, after only 6 months.....:rofl:....and he's just starting to scratched the surface of the damage left behind the Bush/Cheney regime....

And Tie, the same old silly argument about the Dem Congress with Bush's last two years still doesn't hold water....The 110th Congress were elected to tell Bush and the Rep's "NO" but caved in to almost every peice of legislation the neo-cons ask for...They were no different from the previous congress...hence their popularity was negative even with Demcratic voters...

Thanks for posting that and well said. Very well said.
:peaceful:
 

Red Dawn

Well-Known Member
Today's hypocrasy lesson.....The fringe of the population who say "lets wait and see how history judges GW Bush", have already judged Pres Obama as the worst President ever, after only 6 months.....:rofl:....and he's just starting to scratched the surface of the damage left behind the Bush/Cheney regime....

And Tie, the same old silly argument about the Dem Congress with Bush's last two years still doesn't hold water....The 110th Congress were elected to tell Bush and the Rep's "NO" but caved in to almost every peice of legislation the neo-cons ask for...They were no different from the previous congress...hence their popularity was negative even with Demcratic voters...
:cheers::cheers:
 

Overpaid Union Thug

Well-Known Member
Jimmy Carter was the worst president ever. I honestly think that he will retain that title for a very long time. Bush wasn't even close. Not a very good president but no where near being in the bottom 5. But of course the liberal whackos will put him there by default. You just can't please those people that easily and when you do they will turn on you just as quickly as they agree with you. Case in point.......Bush's ratings were the highest of any president ever and then he ended up with the lowest. That just proves how liberals deal in emotion instead of logic. It was hard for them to go against them after 911. And just like emotions are sure to fade over time so do a liberal's support of a republican president. Its that simple.
 

tieguy

Banned
I agree Carter was easily the worst ever.

LBJ is a close second for me. His micromanagement of the vietnam war put our troops through unnecessary risk for targets that would be given back after gained.
 

The Other Side

Well-Known Troll
Troll
Jimmy Carter was the worst president ever. I honestly think that he will retain that title for a very long time. Bush wasn't even close. Not a very good president but no where near being in the bottom 5. But of course the liberal whackos will put him there by default. You just can't please those people that easily and when you do they will turn on you just as quickly as they agree with you. Case in point.......Bush's ratings were the highest of any president ever and then he ended up with the lowest. That just proves how liberals deal in emotion instead of logic. It was hard for them to go against them after 911. And just like emotions are sure to fade over time so do a liberal's support of a republican president. Its that simple.

Bush clearly is the hands down worst president ever in history of the United States. His economic record speaks for itself. He and his republican congress had to raise the DEBY CEILING 9 times to cover the MASSIVE debt he has stuck OBAMA with.

The same went for CARTER as he absorbed all the debt of LBJ and NIXON as they both ran the vietnam war to levels that caused our country to go into a STEEP recession. WHile the democrats created vietnam, the republican led white house of R. NIXON made it worse and the bill came due during Carters term..

While I agree, he mishandled the country in dealing with this debt, I have total confidence that OBAMA will not make the same mistakes as Carter.

OBAMA is following a republican fiscal nightmare that will last for over 10 years. So far, Obama's efforts are still welcomed overwhelmingly by the american public. OVer 50% of america believes we are on the right track versus 19% who thought BUSH was on the right track.

WARs destroy countries. The falsehood of "keeping us safe" costs trillions in losses in other areas. War is not good for the domestic economy.

Bush's wars cost us more than we can calculate, but its people like those that follow the republican diatribe who believe otherwise as they are laid off their jobs.

In the last 4 years in office, BUSH could not speak in public. He was boooooed when he threw out the first pitch in DC, he was stuck only speaking at military facilities in the U.S.

This is a total embarrassment.

Obama on the other hand, was greeted graciously when he threw out the first pitch at the all star game.

This alone defines respect for the commander in chief. While people may believe Obama has it wrong on some issues, they have not yet reached the level of HATE that George W. Bush has earned.

To me and many like me, Bush is the new Herbert Hoover.

You wont see any monuments dedicated to Bush in the near future. Well, maybe in podunk you might see something, but not in the mainstream USA.

Bush will never be able to travel the world and be an ambassador to this country as Bill Clinton has been able to do. Clinton can travel anywhere at anytime and have the respect of foriegn leaders.

Bush cant make it out of an airport anywhere in the world without facing thousands of haters.

He gets the respect he deserves (nothing).
:peaceful:
 

ups1990

Well-Known Member
I agree Carter was easily the worst ever.

LBJ is a close second for me. His micromanagement of the vietnam war put our troops through unnecessary risk for targets that would be given back after gained.
During LBJ's tenure, Congress passed one of the greates pieces of legislation, The Civil Rights Act of 1964. A very significant moment in our history.
 

wkmac

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During LBJ's tenure, Congress passed one of the greates pieces of legislation, The Civil Rights Act of 1964. A very significant moment in our history.

Unalienable Rights:

[SIZE=+2]UNALIENABLE.[/SIZE]
The state of a thing or right which cannot be sold.
Things which are not in commerce, as public roads, are in their nature unalienable. Some things are unalienable, in consequence of particular provisions in the law forbidding their sale or transfer, as pensions granted by the government. The natural rights of life and liberty areUNALIENABLE. Bouviers Law Dictionary 1856 Edition
"Unalienable: incapable of being alienated, that is, sold and transferred." Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, page 1523:
You can not surrender, sell or transfer unalienable rights, they are a gift from the creator to the individual and can not under any circumstances be surrendered or taken. All individual's have unalienable rights.

Civil Rights:

What are Civil Rights?


"Civil rights" are the rights of individuals to receive equal treatment (and to be free from unfair treatment or "discrimination") in a number of settings -- including education, employment, housing, and more -- and based on certain legally-protected characteristics.
Historically, the "Civil Rights Movement" referred to efforts toward achieving true equality for African-Americans in all facets of society, but today the term "civil rights" is also used to describe the advancement of equality for all people regardless of race, sex, age, disability, national origin, religion, or certain other characteristics.
Where Do Civil Rights Come From? Most laws guaranteeing and regulating civil rights originate at the federal level, either through federal legislation, or through federal court decisions (such as those handed down by the U.S. Supreme Court). States also pass their own civil rights laws (usually very similar to those at the federal level), and even municipalities like cities and counties can enact ordinances and laws related to civil rights.

What the master can giveth, the master can take away. If LBJ was so good, then why did he still give the African American inferior rights?

He should have fought to correct a long standing wrong and re-enforced that "all men are created equal and have unalienable rights". So much for the myth of leaving the plantation!
 

Solidarity413

Well-Known Member
Where will old W end up on the list? Historians are already saying he will be in the top five worst presidents in the history of the United States.


Certainly for unions and working people that spot belongs to W's hero, W might get 3rd or 4th but historically there have been some rough presidents for working people. For employers though, he was the man! :rofl:
 
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