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Message: <blockquote data-quote="newfie" data-source="post: 5364242" data-attributes="member: 58700">my son moved out to cali a couple of years ago so I'm there more than i want to be. i was in Venice a couple of weeks ago while coming back from one of the beach towns in Cali. homeless camps sitting on the streets in what otherwise is a pretty cool hip looking town. you could smell the stench from these homeless setups as you walked by them. you see the difference between a liberal town and more conservative town in california.  conservative towns are much cleaner and have less of the homeless blight.  liberal towns have the homeless camps every where and are disgusting in many cases.</blockquote>