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Can you actually be forced to wear a mask in the building indefinitely?
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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4619547" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>Since Oxford seems to be the only source of information that does not have its head firmly planted up its rectum when it comes to all things Covid related, maybe this article will be of some use to anyone still confused about the efficacy of masks.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/[/URL]</p><p></p><p>"Despite the clear requirement to carry out further large, pragmatic trials a decade later, <a href="https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047217v2" target="_blank">only six had been published</a>: five in healthcare workers and one in pilgrims. This recent crop of trials added 9,112 participants to the total randomised denominator of 13,259 <strong>and showed that masks alone have no significant effect in interrupting the spread of ILI or influenza in the general population, nor in healthcare workers...</strong></p><p></p><p><a href="https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577" target="_blank">Only one randomised trial </a>(n=569) included cloth masks. <strong>This trial found ILI rates were 13 times higher in Vietnamese hospital workers allocated to cloth masks compared to medical/surgical masks</strong>, RR 13.25, (95%CI 1.74 to 100.97) <strong>and over three times higher when compared to no masks</strong>, RR 3.49 (95%CI 1.00 to 12.17)."</p><p></p><p>The decision for the CDC to <em>recommend, </em>not mandate, masks is entirely political, to make it seem like they are doing something. There have been some sloppy "observational studies", and even some not too bad laboratory experiments, to back up their recommendations. But there hasn't been time for thorough reviews and replication to verify results.</p><p></p><p>We are left with the randomized trials as the most reliable source of information for decision making. They don't provide any evidence that masks help, and, in the case of cloth masks, they might actually hurt. That is what we should go with. I know that people get blasted with the exact opposite information pretty much non-stop, so I don't blame anyone for not understanding this stuff. But the evidence is out there and available.for anyone who cares to put in a little effort.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4619547, member: 63706"] Since Oxford seems to be the only source of information that does not have its head firmly planted up its rectum when it comes to all things Covid related, maybe this article will be of some use to anyone still confused about the efficacy of masks. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/masking-lack-of-evidence-with-politics/[/URL] "Despite the clear requirement to carry out further large, pragmatic trials a decade later, [URL='https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.03.30.20047217v2']only six had been published[/URL]: five in healthcare workers and one in pilgrims. This recent crop of trials added 9,112 participants to the total randomised denominator of 13,259 [B]and showed that masks alone have no significant effect in interrupting the spread of ILI or influenza in the general population, nor in healthcare workers...[/B] [URL='https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/5/4/e006577']Only one randomised trial [/URL](n=569) included cloth masks. [B]This trial found ILI rates were 13 times higher in Vietnamese hospital workers allocated to cloth masks compared to medical/surgical masks[/B], RR 13.25, (95%CI 1.74 to 100.97) [B]and over three times higher when compared to no masks[/B], RR 3.49 (95%CI 1.00 to 12.17)." The decision for the CDC to [I]recommend, [/I]not mandate, masks is entirely political, to make it seem like they are doing something. There have been some sloppy "observational studies", and even some not too bad laboratory experiments, to back up their recommendations. But there hasn't been time for thorough reviews and replication to verify results. We are left with the randomized trials as the most reliable source of information for decision making. They don't provide any evidence that masks help, and, in the case of cloth masks, they might actually hurt. That is what we should go with. I know that people get blasted with the exact opposite information pretty much non-stop, so I don't blame anyone for not understanding this stuff. But the evidence is out there and available.for anyone who cares to put in a little effort. [/QUOTE]
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