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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4868669" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>I have come around to the reality of systemic racism, but the it is inverted from what you believe it to be. The fact that we keep statistics based on race is one example of systemic racism. </p><p></p><p>The use of the term Marxism is mostly a catch-all due to his communist ideology and vision of socialistic economic systems have been the driving force behind many revolutions throughout history. The methods for such revolutions have become more sophisticated over time. </p><p></p><p>I don't know if I have the time to explain what I understand about everything involved, but to condense, first revolution isn't always a good thing, and has never been with the supposed motivation of creating a worker's paradise, utopia. What is really happening is some people want absolute power, for whatever reason. They know that they can't hope to take over a strong unified nation. They know that they have to create instability among the population. </p><p></p><p>Marx divided between the working class within what he called capitalist economic systems and the wealthy "capitalists" (As an aside, the bolshevik revolution did not occur within a "capitalistic" economic system). Hitler divided among race lines (one reason for the parallels being drawn between our current situation and Nazi Germany, although I would argue that we are being divided along multiple lines, class, race, sexual orientation and identy, etc.). </p><p></p><p>The purpose behind the divisions is to agitate and turn the different groups on each other. During the conflict, the people who are seeking power seize it. The same principals that made the US a power house are the same ones that make it difficult to start a revolution in. That's where the idea of infiltration and taking control of cultural institutions comes in. Hollywood was first to go. Universities have been taken over as well. It has been a slow process, as radical ideas are not readily accepted, and what happens in the political sphere is down stream from culture. </p><p></p><p>It's hard to say that it is a massive conspiracy, it's at least an intentional ideological shift, which doesn't require everyone to be "in on it". But there are certainly people who understand what is happening and are taking advantage of it. </p><p></p><p>All that being said, you have three types of people who push the idea of systemic racism (as you understand it), those who actually believe in it and want to earnestly fix it. Then there are ones who know it's a farce, care nothing about minorities, or anyone but themselves and their quest for power and control. Finally there are those who align themselves with the second category of people, repeat whatever they are told to believe, not caring about what's true or not, just so long as they are on the winning team.</p><p></p><p>So yeah, systemic racism is real, the soft bigotry of low expectations. The racists using agitation along race lines to maintain their power while actually hurting the people they claim to be helping are systematically racist, and classist, and sexist, etc. etc. etc.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4868669, member: 63706"] I have come around to the reality of systemic racism, but the it is inverted from what you believe it to be. The fact that we keep statistics based on race is one example of systemic racism. The use of the term Marxism is mostly a catch-all due to his communist ideology and vision of socialistic economic systems have been the driving force behind many revolutions throughout history. The methods for such revolutions have become more sophisticated over time. I don't know if I have the time to explain what I understand about everything involved, but to condense, first revolution isn't always a good thing, and has never been with the supposed motivation of creating a worker's paradise, utopia. What is really happening is some people want absolute power, for whatever reason. They know that they can't hope to take over a strong unified nation. They know that they have to create instability among the population. Marx divided between the working class within what he called capitalist economic systems and the wealthy "capitalists" (As an aside, the bolshevik revolution did not occur within a "capitalistic" economic system). Hitler divided among race lines (one reason for the parallels being drawn between our current situation and Nazi Germany, although I would argue that we are being divided along multiple lines, class, race, sexual orientation and identy, etc.). The purpose behind the divisions is to agitate and turn the different groups on each other. During the conflict, the people who are seeking power seize it. The same principals that made the US a power house are the same ones that make it difficult to start a revolution in. That's where the idea of infiltration and taking control of cultural institutions comes in. Hollywood was first to go. Universities have been taken over as well. It has been a slow process, as radical ideas are not readily accepted, and what happens in the political sphere is down stream from culture. It's hard to say that it is a massive conspiracy, it's at least an intentional ideological shift, which doesn't require everyone to be "in on it". But there are certainly people who understand what is happening and are taking advantage of it. All that being said, you have three types of people who push the idea of systemic racism (as you understand it), those who actually believe in it and want to earnestly fix it. Then there are ones who know it's a farce, care nothing about minorities, or anyone but themselves and their quest for power and control. Finally there are those who align themselves with the second category of people, repeat whatever they are told to believe, not caring about what's true or not, just so long as they are on the winning team. So yeah, systemic racism is real, the soft bigotry of low expectations. The racists using agitation along race lines to maintain their power while actually hurting the people they claim to be helping are systematically racist, and classist, and sexist, etc. etc. etc. [/QUOTE]
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