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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 84382" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>Trick,</p><p>Let's just say if UPS wants to do that then they can and it's business. And if they pull that then I'm prepared and more than ready with my knowledge and 30 years doing industrial maintenance including knowledge of much of the latest technolgy and computer controls along with the fact I'm also a Journeyman Class A machinist so I do have a few options in my backpocket. However, using Worldport as a model with it's technolgy and automation and the huge size of the PE mechanic numbers, I'd say for the time being UPS hasn't found that part of the Holy Grail yet. Doesn't mean they won't but with the drive towards technology I'd say in the meantime there will be more of folks like me than less. </p><p> </p><p>Besides, there are 1000's and 1000's of drivers and maybe a 1000 plus PE mechanics within the UPS system. If you were looking to reap huge savings where would you start? I can cut $1 from each PE mechanic nationwide and save a little over a $1000 total or I can cut $.10 from each of the 80k drivers and save $8000. Now which is likely easier to do and more cost effective? Not picking on drivers as they are the heartbeat of the company but for the same amount of energy or maybe even less you can get 8 times the savings. </p><p> </p><p>As to your point of getting some automaton to do my job. Yes, it will happen and many automated systems do self diagnois now and at some point will either self repair or can be repaired via remote. But even those systems will need someone to maintain them and I'll either outrun that concept or at present I'm adapting and preparing myself already for that potential. Automation is really a boom for me far, far more than it's a bust. The flipside is I see more and more of that and at present that amount of technology is not completely realistic and affordable just yet. Biggest reason you don't see vastly more automation in UPS is the cost BUT as labor costs and all that associates with it plus the shrinking labor pool at the present starting wage of $8.50 an hour is drying up, the pendulum is and will swing to the automation side more and more. Plus, automation is getting cheaper and cheaper as it comes to be more broadly used. </p><p> </p><p>I'm also not convinced in any real way that UPS is willing to use PAS, EDD, etc. at this point to push a confrontation with it's union workforce to the point of a strike to replace it's entire workforce with folks off the street. Especially the driver job, it's just not something learned in a day, a week, a month and they know that. Now if we push to hard in 08' then all bets are off but Hoffa knows where his bread is buttered and is not likely to pull and Carey and commit stupidcide. </p><p> </p><p>Things are going to good for UPS right now and we've gained so much since 97' concerning the customer. However, it's a given labor costs will continue to rise and with that we will be squeezed for every ounce of efficency they can get to pay for it. Now that's business! </p><p> </p><p>That's JMO.</p><p> </p><p>c ya and be good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 84382, member: 2189"] Trick, Let's just say if UPS wants to do that then they can and it's business. And if they pull that then I'm prepared and more than ready with my knowledge and 30 years doing industrial maintenance including knowledge of much of the latest technolgy and computer controls along with the fact I'm also a Journeyman Class A machinist so I do have a few options in my backpocket. However, using Worldport as a model with it's technolgy and automation and the huge size of the PE mechanic numbers, I'd say for the time being UPS hasn't found that part of the Holy Grail yet. Doesn't mean they won't but with the drive towards technology I'd say in the meantime there will be more of folks like me than less. Besides, there are 1000's and 1000's of drivers and maybe a 1000 plus PE mechanics within the UPS system. If you were looking to reap huge savings where would you start? I can cut $1 from each PE mechanic nationwide and save a little over a $1000 total or I can cut $.10 from each of the 80k drivers and save $8000. Now which is likely easier to do and more cost effective? Not picking on drivers as they are the heartbeat of the company but for the same amount of energy or maybe even less you can get 8 times the savings. As to your point of getting some automaton to do my job. Yes, it will happen and many automated systems do self diagnois now and at some point will either self repair or can be repaired via remote. But even those systems will need someone to maintain them and I'll either outrun that concept or at present I'm adapting and preparing myself already for that potential. Automation is really a boom for me far, far more than it's a bust. The flipside is I see more and more of that and at present that amount of technology is not completely realistic and affordable just yet. Biggest reason you don't see vastly more automation in UPS is the cost BUT as labor costs and all that associates with it plus the shrinking labor pool at the present starting wage of $8.50 an hour is drying up, the pendulum is and will swing to the automation side more and more. Plus, automation is getting cheaper and cheaper as it comes to be more broadly used. I'm also not convinced in any real way that UPS is willing to use PAS, EDD, etc. at this point to push a confrontation with it's union workforce to the point of a strike to replace it's entire workforce with folks off the street. Especially the driver job, it's just not something learned in a day, a week, a month and they know that. Now if we push to hard in 08' then all bets are off but Hoffa knows where his bread is buttered and is not likely to pull and Carey and commit stupidcide. Things are going to good for UPS right now and we've gained so much since 97' concerning the customer. However, it's a given labor costs will continue to rise and with that we will be squeezed for every ounce of efficency they can get to pay for it. Now that's business! That's JMO. c ya and be good. [/QUOTE]
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