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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5604395" data-attributes="member: 24302">I have no idea what you&#039;re trying to say.&nbsp; You might study history a bit closer.&nbsp; Yes, plenty of examples of people claiming Christianity killing people.&nbsp; Their religion didn&#039;t tell them to do that.But let&#039;s look at what precipitated the accession of white Europeans to power.&nbsp; The constant attacks from the east and south by non Christians.&nbsp; Mongols, Huns, Moors, Saracens, countless others.&nbsp; Non Christian white barbarians.&nbsp; Weapon systems were developed in defense.&nbsp; That led to power.The early church saw many Christians put to death for refusing to renounce their faith.&nbsp; They refused to be violent.&nbsp; This idea spread and became so widespread that rulers themselves either embraced the new religion or nominally accepted it as it was in their best interest to do so.&nbsp; It&#039;s when the powers that be accepted it we started seeing a corruption of the Church.&nbsp; Using it to control the masses and to stir passions to attack enemies.&nbsp; But the Church being used to further the fortunes of the powerful isn&#039;t Christianity.&nbsp; And they will be judged accordingly.If you read just how many millions of people were killed by non Christian peoples like the Mongols, or more recently atheist groups like the communists, the people killed by those claiming Christianity is considerably less.As to the New World certainly atrocities were done.&nbsp; But it&#039;s settled history that the overwhelming number of Native deaths came from inadvertently introduced diseases that the Natives weren&#039;t immune to.&nbsp; There&#039;s even proof now that the Amazon may have had as many as twenty million people wiped out by contact with early explorers who introduced European diseases.Of course this won&#039;t abate your hatred because even if practiced true Christianity doesn&#039;t harm others physically it still sees homosexuality as a sin that you will lose your soul over if you don&#039;t repent and turn away from.&nbsp; And that upsets you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5604395, member: 24302"] I have no idea what you're trying to say. You might study history a bit closer. Yes, plenty of examples of people claiming Christianity killing people. Their religion didn't tell them to do that. But let's look at what precipitated the accession of white Europeans to power. The constant attacks from the east and south by non Christians. Mongols, Huns, Moors, Saracens, countless others. Non Christian white barbarians. Weapon systems were developed in defense. That led to power. The early church saw many Christians put to death for refusing to renounce their faith. They refused to be violent. This idea spread and became so widespread that rulers themselves either embraced the new religion or nominally accepted it as it was in their best interest to do so. It's when the powers that be accepted it we started seeing a corruption of the Church. Using it to control the masses and to stir passions to attack enemies. But the Church being used to further the fortunes of the powerful isn't Christianity. And they will be judged accordingly. If you read just how many millions of people were killed by non Christian peoples like the Mongols, or more recently atheist groups like the communists, the people killed by those claiming Christianity is considerably less. As to the New World certainly atrocities were done. But it's settled history that the overwhelming number of Native deaths came from inadvertently introduced diseases that the Natives weren't immune to. There's even proof now that the Amazon may have had as many as twenty million people wiped out by contact with early explorers who introduced European diseases. Of course this won't abate your hatred because even if practiced true Christianity doesn't harm others physically it still sees homosexuality as a sin that you will lose your soul over if you don't repent and turn away from. And that upsets you. [/QUOTE]

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