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<blockquote data-quote="El Correcto" data-source="post: 5630567" data-attributes="member: 60631"><p>You won’t look further into that, I already explained the grace alone argument from Paul, which you said faith without works is dead. I already explained gentile freedom to you people, which you denied and said people have to be baptized. </p><p>So now you want to pretend you have some gentile freedom or grace alone type attitude about sin when it comes to using the government as a sword, which is not how any of that works or has ever worked in Christianity.</p><p></p><p>Yeah because that is the important part when it comes to rationalizing using the government to kill them for a thousand years. If Christians had a more gentile freedom or grace alone attitude I wouldn’t be complaining. If you sat there saying I can’t judge sinners for sinning because I’m also a sinner I wouldn’t care. But that isn’t your attitude and that isn’t the attitude of Christianity.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You are the one cherry picking. I’m the one pointing out how it really goes in the real world, not just your modern rationalizations of the Bible as an allegory or whatever you people hide behind when called out on it being evil and factually wrong.</p><p></p><p>Just like Christians do in modern times(including you) Christians also used to bring up Sodom and Gomorrah when rationalizing the executions of gays in England. They would argue not executing them would bring about ruin for the country by god’s wrath. </p><p>That’s the only difference between you and those people. You’re not truly afraid of the Bible in the same way they were. You have a much more enlightened view of the world and morality than those people did, no thanks to your silly book, which you ignore large segments of and don’t even remember. If you don’t even remember your book how do you live by it? You don’t, because that is not where your morality comes from.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="El Correcto, post: 5630567, member: 60631"] You won’t look further into that, I already explained the grace alone argument from Paul, which you said faith without works is dead. I already explained gentile freedom to you people, which you denied and said people have to be baptized. So now you want to pretend you have some gentile freedom or grace alone type attitude about sin when it comes to using the government as a sword, which is not how any of that works or has ever worked in Christianity. Yeah because that is the important part when it comes to rationalizing using the government to kill them for a thousand years. If Christians had a more gentile freedom or grace alone attitude I wouldn’t be complaining. If you sat there saying I can’t judge sinners for sinning because I’m also a sinner I wouldn’t care. But that isn’t your attitude and that isn’t the attitude of Christianity. You are the one cherry picking. I’m the one pointing out how it really goes in the real world, not just your modern rationalizations of the Bible as an allegory or whatever you people hide behind when called out on it being evil and factually wrong. Just like Christians do in modern times(including you) Christians also used to bring up Sodom and Gomorrah when rationalizing the executions of gays in England. They would argue not executing them would bring about ruin for the country by god’s wrath. That’s the only difference between you and those people. You’re not truly afraid of the Bible in the same way they were. You have a much more enlightened view of the world and morality than those people did, no thanks to your silly book, which you ignore large segments of and don’t even remember. If you don’t even remember your book how do you live by it? You don’t, because that is not where your morality comes from. [/QUOTE]
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