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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5922406" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>I gave you verses that support my position.&nbsp; How come you can&#039;t?&nbsp; You seem to believe you&#039;re going to shut me down but all you really prove is you aren&#039;t Bible based.&nbsp; You aren&#039;t a Christian.&nbsp; You&#039;re making it up as you go rather than submitting to God&#039;s will.&nbsp; A baby isn&#039;t born in sin.&nbsp; The original sin doctrine just seeks to justify why people sin.&nbsp; According to that doctrine people just can&#039;t help themselves.&nbsp; The problem with that is we are free moral agents.&nbsp; We choose whether we will sin or not.&nbsp; If we can&#039;t control ourselves then it means God is unjust.&nbsp; And that Jesus needlessly died on the cross.&nbsp; I can see where that would appeal to you.&nbsp; You won&#039;t be held accountable for your sin because you can&#039;t help it.&nbsp; So do whatever you like.&nbsp; Nothing matters except living as you please because what you want is paramount.&nbsp; Don&#039;t kid yourself.&nbsp; You can and will lose your soul to a devil&#039;s hell if you refuse to submit to God&#039;s will.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5922406, member: 24302"] I gave you verses that support my position. How come you can't? You seem to believe you're going to shut me down but all you really prove is you aren't Bible based. You aren't a Christian. You're making it up as you go rather than submitting to God's will. A baby isn't born in sin. The original sin doctrine just seeks to justify why people sin. According to that doctrine people just can't help themselves. The problem with that is we are free moral agents. We choose whether we will sin or not. If we can't control ourselves then it means God is unjust. And that Jesus needlessly died on the cross. I can see where that would appeal to you. You won't be held accountable for your sin because you can't help it. So do whatever you like. Nothing matters except living as you please because what you want is paramount. Don't kid yourself. You can and will lose your soul to a devil's hell if you refuse to submit to God's will. [/QUOTE]

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