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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1111342" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>I participated in this conference call and I am updated weekly. The explanation about surepost (IMO) was WEAK at best, the Teamsters will continue to allow UPS to use Surepost. The diversion of ground pkgs to Surepost will increase over the term of this next contract. hall explained how surepost was vital to the business, and he stated he wanted some limitations, but the company was fighting the technology that had to be implemented to watchdog surepost. This has to do with "weights". </p><p></p><p>Second, the company presented its economic proposals on monday. They were a complete joke. The company is asking for a 7 year deal.</p><p></p><p>For full timers, the company will pay each FT 1000 a year for the first 4 years of the contract, and that 1000 to go towards health and welfare benefits.( no cash in your pockets) For the last 3 years of the contract, UPS has GRACIOUSLY offered FTers .50 cents an hour over three years.</p><p></p><p>For part timers, divide that in half. 500 bonus towards health and welfare, and .25 cents an hour over 3 years.</p><p></p><p>Remember this. This "BONUS" that UPS is suggesting is "taxable" and you would recieve a 1099 for this money/benefit.</p><p></p><p>THIS UPS PROPOSAL IS A COMPLETE JOKE.</p><p></p><p>The Teamsters have offered an offer of a little over 1.00 an hour for fulltimers over 5 years. Again, another joke, but not as bad as the company offer.</p><p></p><p>The company insists on taking away the "skilled" 1.00 away from part timers and NO increase in starting pay for part timers.</p><p></p><p>AS for insurance. The company is still holding firm on forcing us to pay for our healthcare. The alternatives are NO BETTER either.</p><p></p><p>The Teamsters have "suggested" that UPS consider the Teamsters taking over the health care plans and if you know anything about the Teamster plans, you would know that they are INFERIOR to the current health care plans offered to us by UPS.</p><p></p><p>The real important aspect of this update is that there is NO significant progress being made by either side. March 31st has been set as a deadline by the Teamsters for the company to "withdraw" its current proposals and re propose a valid offer.</p><p></p><p>On the 31st, the TEAMSTERS are walking away from negotiations and will not contact the company for further contact. hall clearly states that the COMPANY will have contact the TEAMSTERS after that date if they want to negotiate in good faith. IF NOT, the TEAMSTERS will begin to notify its members of the impasse and once again, we may be on strike come August 1 2013.</p><p></p><p>YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. THERE WILL BE NO AGREEMENT !</p><p></p><p>WE WILL BE ON STRIKE. </p><p></p><p>If you have your dreams set on an agreement beforehand, then you need to re-evalulate that thought process and begin the process of protecting yourself and your families financial security.</p><p></p><p>This call was NOT uplifting at all. The information was ALL BAD.</p><p></p><p>Where I draw Ire from, was from both TDU and hall.</p><p></p><p>First, TDU, for POSTING THE PHONE NUMBERS FOR THESE CONFERENCE CALLS. Do you people realize UPS MANAGEMENT gets this information and calls in and listens to the calls? You are NOT HELPING the membership by continuing this practice.</p><p></p><p>Second, for hall to turn this call into a TDU bashing was ridiculous as well. Of the 4 calls taken on the call, 3 were TDU bashers.</p><p></p><p>NOT one call about anything on the contract.</p><p></p><p>Shame on both sides.</p><p></p><p>There was NOTHING positive about this call.</p><p></p><p>The 9.5 language hall spoke of, already EXISTS and that was nothing new, even though he made it sound like it was. In fact, it was LESS than we agreed to in 2008. In 2008, if you wanted to be on the 9.5 list, all you had to do was notify your center manager and you were on the list. TODAY, hall states that his "new" 9.5 language says that if you want to be on the 9.5 list, you FIRST have to be violated 3 days in one week, THEN you can get on the list starting the next week.</p><p></p><p>The rest of the language is the same.</p><p></p><p>As for harrassment, again, weak language that will lead drivers to an almost year long battle going from deadlock committee to deadlock committee until the possibility of national arbitration. WHAT A JOKE.</p><p></p><p>None the less, despite this rather gloomy call, MARCH 31st should strike you all. If the TEAMSTERS walk away on that date, then we in for a BIG FIGHT come August 1st 2013.</p><p></p><p>PREPARE, PREPARE, PREPARE.</p><p></p><p>Peace Brothers and Sisters.</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1111342, member: 17969"] I participated in this conference call and I am updated weekly. The explanation about surepost (IMO) was WEAK at best, the Teamsters will continue to allow UPS to use Surepost. The diversion of ground pkgs to Surepost will increase over the term of this next contract. hall explained how surepost was vital to the business, and he stated he wanted some limitations, but the company was fighting the technology that had to be implemented to watchdog surepost. This has to do with "weights". Second, the company presented its economic proposals on monday. They were a complete joke. The company is asking for a 7 year deal. For full timers, the company will pay each FT 1000 a year for the first 4 years of the contract, and that 1000 to go towards health and welfare benefits.( no cash in your pockets) For the last 3 years of the contract, UPS has GRACIOUSLY offered FTers .50 cents an hour over three years. For part timers, divide that in half. 500 bonus towards health and welfare, and .25 cents an hour over 3 years. Remember this. This "BONUS" that UPS is suggesting is "taxable" and you would recieve a 1099 for this money/benefit. THIS UPS PROPOSAL IS A COMPLETE JOKE. The Teamsters have offered an offer of a little over 1.00 an hour for fulltimers over 5 years. Again, another joke, but not as bad as the company offer. The company insists on taking away the "skilled" 1.00 away from part timers and NO increase in starting pay for part timers. AS for insurance. The company is still holding firm on forcing us to pay for our healthcare. The alternatives are NO BETTER either. The Teamsters have "suggested" that UPS consider the Teamsters taking over the health care plans and if you know anything about the Teamster plans, you would know that they are INFERIOR to the current health care plans offered to us by UPS. The real important aspect of this update is that there is NO significant progress being made by either side. March 31st has been set as a deadline by the Teamsters for the company to "withdraw" its current proposals and re propose a valid offer. On the 31st, the TEAMSTERS are walking away from negotiations and will not contact the company for further contact. hall clearly states that the COMPANY will have contact the TEAMSTERS after that date if they want to negotiate in good faith. IF NOT, the TEAMSTERS will begin to notify its members of the impasse and once again, we may be on strike come August 1 2013. YOU NEED TO TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. THERE WILL BE NO AGREEMENT ! WE WILL BE ON STRIKE. If you have your dreams set on an agreement beforehand, then you need to re-evalulate that thought process and begin the process of protecting yourself and your families financial security. This call was NOT uplifting at all. The information was ALL BAD. Where I draw Ire from, was from both TDU and hall. First, TDU, for POSTING THE PHONE NUMBERS FOR THESE CONFERENCE CALLS. Do you people realize UPS MANAGEMENT gets this information and calls in and listens to the calls? You are NOT HELPING the membership by continuing this practice. Second, for hall to turn this call into a TDU bashing was ridiculous as well. Of the 4 calls taken on the call, 3 were TDU bashers. NOT one call about anything on the contract. Shame on both sides. There was NOTHING positive about this call. The 9.5 language hall spoke of, already EXISTS and that was nothing new, even though he made it sound like it was. In fact, it was LESS than we agreed to in 2008. In 2008, if you wanted to be on the 9.5 list, all you had to do was notify your center manager and you were on the list. TODAY, hall states that his "new" 9.5 language says that if you want to be on the 9.5 list, you FIRST have to be violated 3 days in one week, THEN you can get on the list starting the next week. The rest of the language is the same. As for harrassment, again, weak language that will lead drivers to an almost year long battle going from deadlock committee to deadlock committee until the possibility of national arbitration. WHAT A JOKE. None the less, despite this rather gloomy call, MARCH 31st should strike you all. If the TEAMSTERS walk away on that date, then we in for a BIG FIGHT come August 1st 2013. PREPARE, PREPARE, PREPARE. Peace Brothers and Sisters. TOS [/QUOTE]
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