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<blockquote data-quote="Cezanne" data-source="post: 207583" data-attributes="member: 5104"><p>Consider the companies proposals according to the last TDU reports, what does it point to? Here is my scoop: The full time progression is for the new package car drivers that will be needed if and I mean If they set a good 25 year and out pension formula. Why create more combo positions when so many other full time positions will be open again if they successfully negotiated a reasonable retirement. Just imagine the openings in the package and feeder operations, most departments will lose 30 percent of their drivers. If the company wants package care helpers and air drivers to help eliminate overtime compensation and have the drivers get home at a reasonable time is that so bad? Consider the only reason that the teamsters fought for these full time jobs was to add addtional funds to it's shruggling penson and health and welfare plan. If the company withdraws from the central states fund and creates another benefit plan with teamster involvement why would there be an need for the new contributions. The guaranteed 3.5 hours for part timers would be reduced mainly for delivering ground packages, would imagine that a reasonable starting pay rate would be part of the package, considering that it is bordering on the federal minimun wage rate. </p><p> </p><p>Really look at these so-called concessions again and see where this is heading for. This pension issue is basically already settled, the teamsters cannot stop UPS from paying the withdraw liability and forming it's own. The TDU dogma is just hoffa bashing with their own agenda, face it the last two contracts were rush jobs, so many loopholes and no solutions to the members needs. Maybe the buck has finally stopped and both parties can work this out, if not the feds are not too far away to impose their will and I guarantee you that will not be pretty.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cezanne, post: 207583, member: 5104"] Consider the companies proposals according to the last TDU reports, what does it point to? Here is my scoop: The full time progression is for the new package car drivers that will be needed if and I mean If they set a good 25 year and out pension formula. Why create more combo positions when so many other full time positions will be open again if they successfully negotiated a reasonable retirement. Just imagine the openings in the package and feeder operations, most departments will lose 30 percent of their drivers. If the company wants package care helpers and air drivers to help eliminate overtime compensation and have the drivers get home at a reasonable time is that so bad? Consider the only reason that the teamsters fought for these full time jobs was to add addtional funds to it's shruggling penson and health and welfare plan. If the company withdraws from the central states fund and creates another benefit plan with teamster involvement why would there be an need for the new contributions. The guaranteed 3.5 hours for part timers would be reduced mainly for delivering ground packages, would imagine that a reasonable starting pay rate would be part of the package, considering that it is bordering on the federal minimun wage rate. Really look at these so-called concessions again and see where this is heading for. This pension issue is basically already settled, the teamsters cannot stop UPS from paying the withdraw liability and forming it's own. The TDU dogma is just hoffa bashing with their own agenda, face it the last two contracts were rush jobs, so many loopholes and no solutions to the members needs. Maybe the buck has finally stopped and both parties can work this out, if not the feds are not too far away to impose their will and I guarantee you that will not be pretty. [/QUOTE]
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