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<blockquote data-quote="705red" data-source="post: 212573" data-attributes="member: 5229"><p>I have never forced anyone to stay in the cs plan! I have voiced my opinion on possible outcomes that could happen under your company sponsored single employer plan. Why all of the interest all of a sudden tie? Is this managements attempt to brainwash and force feed us your side of the story? You seem to acknowkledge that you know what ups's pension proposal is, so go ahead and show us what you have so the parties involved (cs pensioners) can make a decision for themselves. At least tell us whats in it for ups and please dont tell us you care about the employees while your everyday actions ( busting out routes, over working us daily, and continuosly violating our contract) show us we are only numbers to you and nothing else. Tie you keep painting the company as being perfect, but its far from perfect. You feel that ups has no fault in the cs plan so in turn your giving the ups trustees a pass and attempting to pass the buck all onto the teamsters. Now the teamsters deserve to be blamed but also all the trustees (even the untouchable ups trustees), and the investment firms, with the governments help.</p><p> </p><p>So tie if you will like to continue this debate at least debate it open minded and stop quoting your company handouts as the word as the lord!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="705red, post: 212573, member: 5229"] I have never forced anyone to stay in the cs plan! I have voiced my opinion on possible outcomes that could happen under your company sponsored single employer plan. Why all of the interest all of a sudden tie? Is this managements attempt to brainwash and force feed us your side of the story? You seem to acknowkledge that you know what ups's pension proposal is, so go ahead and show us what you have so the parties involved (cs pensioners) can make a decision for themselves. At least tell us whats in it for ups and please dont tell us you care about the employees while your everyday actions ( busting out routes, over working us daily, and continuosly violating our contract) show us we are only numbers to you and nothing else. Tie you keep painting the company as being perfect, but its far from perfect. You feel that ups has no fault in the cs plan so in turn your giving the ups trustees a pass and attempting to pass the buck all onto the teamsters. Now the teamsters deserve to be blamed but also all the trustees (even the untouchable ups trustees), and the investment firms, with the governments help. So tie if you will like to continue this debate at least debate it open minded and stop quoting your company handouts as the word as the lord! [/QUOTE]
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