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<blockquote data-quote="tieguy" data-source="post: 212990" data-attributes="member: 1912"><p><span style="color: blue">Before we get too far off track I'm not posting on this thread to put down unionism. I'm not here denying the benefits of collective bargaining. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">My points again are :</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">1) 97 was a sham for Ron Careys glory that cost many fine upsers their well deserved retirement. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">2) When we discuss the solutions to fixing these pension plans we have to get rid of the old "company is here to steal your pension" language. That does not mean you negotiate company control in fact you negotiate joint control. But the pensions are not getting fixed if you exclude UPS as part of the fix. </span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">3) if you do an honest comparison the teamsters have shown they can not handle the responsibility of managing pension funds. They can not have direct control of your pension if you want it fixed.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tieguy, post: 212990, member: 1912"] [COLOR=blue]Before we get too far off track I'm not posting on this thread to put down unionism. I'm not here denying the benefits of collective bargaining. [/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]My points again are :[/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]1) 97 was a sham for Ron Careys glory that cost many fine upsers their well deserved retirement. [/COLOR] [COLOR=blue]2) When we discuss the solutions to fixing these pension plans we have to get rid of the old "company is here to steal your pension" language. That does not mean you negotiate company control in fact you negotiate joint control. But the pensions are not getting fixed if you exclude UPS as part of the fix. [/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]3) if you do an honest comparison the teamsters have shown they can not handle the responsibility of managing pension funds. They can not have direct control of your pension if you want it fixed.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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