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<blockquote data-quote="Cezanne" data-source="post: 101699" data-attributes="member: 5104"><p>Forget it guys, it is going to be the pension. Problem is if they fix it for anybody to retire at any reasonable age, you will lose 3/4 of the employees who makes this company run. Seriously look at our replacements, been dragging the bottom of the well for any employee to stay longer than a year. Frankly would not mind staying till 60 if they enforced the contract to benefit the heath and well being of it's employees. Seems to be happening the other way around, with if terminating good employees who cannot do the work due to a disability, or am I the only one who has seen good long term employees denied any accommodations to provide a living due to a physical disability, unless of course you are in management.</p><p> </p><p>The problems that we have seen and are seeing is due to many things, one major one is an apparently weak union. Is anybody listening to any of our concerns or is it just business as usual, protecting the status quo. This last contract was forced down our throats, six years of the same old same old, people better get educated about these issues or it is going to be same next contract and the one after that. You know why Carey didn't permit our right to vote on the "97" contract, because he knew if you put a contract in front of the average UPS employee they would vote "YES" in secret even if it meant selling out our brothers. </p><p> </p><p>Face it we been lied to so many times that we do not know what the truth is by both sides. I personally will be paying close attention to this upcoming one, it is going to be the last one for a vast majority of us at UPS, can you imagine an eight year contract of no pension or health and welfare improvements. Just keep your head in the sand and see what happens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cezanne, post: 101699, member: 5104"] Forget it guys, it is going to be the pension. Problem is if they fix it for anybody to retire at any reasonable age, you will lose 3/4 of the employees who makes this company run. Seriously look at our replacements, been dragging the bottom of the well for any employee to stay longer than a year. Frankly would not mind staying till 60 if they enforced the contract to benefit the heath and well being of it's employees. Seems to be happening the other way around, with if terminating good employees who cannot do the work due to a disability, or am I the only one who has seen good long term employees denied any accommodations to provide a living due to a physical disability, unless of course you are in management. The problems that we have seen and are seeing is due to many things, one major one is an apparently weak union. Is anybody listening to any of our concerns or is it just business as usual, protecting the status quo. This last contract was forced down our throats, six years of the same old same old, people better get educated about these issues or it is going to be same next contract and the one after that. You know why Carey didn't permit our right to vote on the "97" contract, because he knew if you put a contract in front of the average UPS employee they would vote "YES" in secret even if it meant selling out our brothers. Face it we been lied to so many times that we do not know what the truth is by both sides. I personally will be paying close attention to this upcoming one, it is going to be the last one for a vast majority of us at UPS, can you imagine an eight year contract of no pension or health and welfare improvements. Just keep your head in the sand and see what happens. [/QUOTE]
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