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<blockquote data-quote="The Other Side" data-source="post: 1091973" data-attributes="member: 17969"><p>Why are some of you arguing with each other? You should be pulling together and collectively advising each other how to prepare for worst.</p><p></p><p>If your one of those "we are a liability to the company people" , then this isnt the thread for you to post in. The nature of negotiations is complicated, and those complications have risks.</p><p></p><p>Todays "risks" mirror those of 1997. The company is standing the same ground they stood on in 97. All indications so far from the company is that "they" are not prepared to deal squarely based upon the successes of the company over the last 8 years. </p><p></p><p>They have abandoned the "give and take" and presented a "TAKE" offer only.</p><p></p><p>If you think otherwise, then youre foolish.</p><p></p><p>Lets stop the HYPERBOLE of this conversation and move on to helping each other cope and deal with the next few months. You have a short time to prepare. 5 months will be here before you know it.</p><p></p><p>As for you scaredy cats running with your tails between your legs ready to give up what 100 years of UPS workers earned for you in past negotiations, I say, this is the wrong place for cowards.</p><p></p><p>We have to not only look at our situations presently, but also, the people that follow behind us. You CANT have an attitude that "I already have mine" and screw the rest.</p><p></p><p>It doesnt work like that. Just because your a short timer ready to pull the pin, doesnt mean your pension is guaranteed. If there are brothers and sisters behind you doing the job contributing to the fund, YOUR pension is in jeopardy.</p><p></p><p>Dollar in for Dollar out. Without this principle, YOUR pensions will go broke.</p><p></p><p>Just because you walk out with 35 years under your belt isnt confirmation that you will recieve your checks forever. YOU need a part timer and a full timer behind you tugging the line, and they need someone tugging the line behind them.</p><p></p><p>Plan, plan plan. Be prepared. Talk is cheap so stop arguing.</p><p></p><p>This company is strong enough to afford all of us. If they would just stop wasting millions of dollars on useless managers who dont manage, and IE guys who never did the jobs, we would have tons of profit to spread around to the people who make this business what it is today.</p><p></p><p>Peace</p><p></p><p>TOS</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Other Side, post: 1091973, member: 17969"] Why are some of you arguing with each other? You should be pulling together and collectively advising each other how to prepare for worst. If your one of those "we are a liability to the company people" , then this isnt the thread for you to post in. The nature of negotiations is complicated, and those complications have risks. Todays "risks" mirror those of 1997. The company is standing the same ground they stood on in 97. All indications so far from the company is that "they" are not prepared to deal squarely based upon the successes of the company over the last 8 years. They have abandoned the "give and take" and presented a "TAKE" offer only. If you think otherwise, then youre foolish. Lets stop the HYPERBOLE of this conversation and move on to helping each other cope and deal with the next few months. You have a short time to prepare. 5 months will be here before you know it. As for you scaredy cats running with your tails between your legs ready to give up what 100 years of UPS workers earned for you in past negotiations, I say, this is the wrong place for cowards. We have to not only look at our situations presently, but also, the people that follow behind us. You CANT have an attitude that "I already have mine" and screw the rest. It doesnt work like that. Just because your a short timer ready to pull the pin, doesnt mean your pension is guaranteed. If there are brothers and sisters behind you doing the job contributing to the fund, YOUR pension is in jeopardy. Dollar in for Dollar out. Without this principle, YOUR pensions will go broke. Just because you walk out with 35 years under your belt isnt confirmation that you will recieve your checks forever. YOU need a part timer and a full timer behind you tugging the line, and they need someone tugging the line behind them. Plan, plan plan. Be prepared. Talk is cheap so stop arguing. This company is strong enough to afford all of us. If they would just stop wasting millions of dollars on useless managers who dont manage, and IE guys who never did the jobs, we would have tons of profit to spread around to the people who make this business what it is today. Peace TOS [/QUOTE]
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