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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4639664" data-attributes="member: 56035">yea i am concerned about the vaccine and whether its safe or not but i know where to look to find out if it is more or less.&nbsp; sometimes i know better and i dont do things, hard to explain why i dont aside from maybe i dont give a <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> / arrogance.yea that was exactly my point that profs from top schools shouldnt necessarily be trusted.&nbsp; or even the whole profession (in this case economics) shouldnt be trusted.&nbsp; greger is quite critical of the medical profession too.i dont say things to be purposefully misleading.&nbsp; i didnt really understand this part, maybe its my fault <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/wink.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)" data-shortname=";)" />, but corporations are not people and if i recall money is not speech.&nbsp; public citizen basically recommends enforcement and transparency for lobbyists and politicians alike.democracy means we should all be in decision making positions and if it becomes too slow, then we elect representatives to carry out our wishes, not whos proposals we agree with.&nbsp; if its too complicated then we set up a way for other people to qualify to make those harder decisions like doctors and judges.&nbsp; chomsky says authoritarian structures bear the burden of proof that they are justified (they usually are not) and if not they should be dismantled.increasingly we live in a market driven culture where everything and everyone is for sale and that comes at expense of the truth.&nbsp; quite often you can have commercialism or the truth.&nbsp; you can have both, but i think often they are exclusive.&nbsp; in the matrix the humans whole world was based on a lie, and this was so they could be completely exploited.o btw, i didnt really like the cartesian answer to how do you know everything isnt bull<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2&nbsp; &nbsp; :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" />, but i could be wrong.&nbsp; i forgot the other 2 guys, i think one guys name was russell.&nbsp; chomsky suggested they are posed as questions but not actually which i found interesting.&nbsp; i think they are both interesting and would like to hear more.&nbsp; i like talking to you because you raise some good points like the appeal to authority and money thing.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 4639664, member: 56035"] yea i am concerned about the vaccine and whether its safe or not but i know where to look to find out if it is more or less. sometimes i know better and i dont do things, hard to explain why i dont aside from maybe i dont give a :censored: / arrogance. yea that was exactly my point that profs from top schools shouldnt necessarily be trusted. or even the whole profession (in this case economics) shouldnt be trusted. greger is quite critical of the medical profession too. i dont say things to be purposefully misleading. i didnt really understand this part, maybe its my fault ;), but corporations are not people and if i recall money is not speech. public citizen basically recommends enforcement and transparency for lobbyists and politicians alike. democracy means we should all be in decision making positions and if it becomes too slow, then we elect representatives to carry out our wishes, not whos proposals we agree with. if its too complicated then we set up a way for other people to qualify to make those harder decisions like doctors and judges. chomsky says authoritarian structures bear the burden of proof that they are justified (they usually are not) and if not they should be dismantled. increasingly we live in a market driven culture where everything and everyone is for sale and that comes at expense of the truth. quite often you can have commercialism or the truth. you can have both, but i think often they are exclusive. in the matrix the humans whole world was based on a lie, and this was so they could be completely exploited. o btw, i didnt really like the cartesian answer to how do you know everything isnt bull:censored:, but i could be wrong. i forgot the other 2 guys, i think one guys name was russell. chomsky suggested they are posed as questions but not actually which i found interesting. i think they are both interesting and would like to hear more. i like talking to you because you raise some good points like the appeal to authority and money thing. [/QUOTE]

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