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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4642475" data-attributes="member: 56035">i think quality is slipping too.the natives werent succcessful?&nbsp; this system seems like a failure to me because it doesnt work with the environment.&nbsp; i agree we shouldnt create a system based on hope.&nbsp; our democracy is based on that too often, until people actually vote for things themselves because at least they are choosing or get organized to play the politicians hands.i guess theres alot of inefficient things corporations do like ship products around the world to take advantage of economic conditions, or making products which are designed to fail and unable to be upgraded.regarding absolute morals and universal law yea chomsky thinks very early in peoples lives they have an understanding of whats fair and its biological.&nbsp; he actually thinks there are no serious skeptics or moral relativists, you can discuss it but you wouldnt survive.&nbsp; with morals there are a range of options that exist, but there are limits within the range based on genetics.&nbsp; he compares it to how the sight system partly develops environmentally or language.&nbsp; he says there are ethical norms which vary widely.&nbsp; i think in one video chomsky completely dismisses associations it has with god.&nbsp; id be interested in what cornel west says (although hes a christian) i couldnt find anything in short videos or on google, and chris hedges.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 4642475, member: 56035"] i think quality is slipping too. the natives werent succcessful? this system seems like a failure to me because it doesnt work with the environment. i agree we shouldnt create a system based on hope. our democracy is based on that too often, until people actually vote for things themselves because at least they are choosing or get organized to play the politicians hands. i guess theres alot of inefficient things corporations do like ship products around the world to take advantage of economic conditions, or making products which are designed to fail and unable to be upgraded. regarding absolute morals and universal law yea chomsky thinks very early in peoples lives they have an understanding of whats fair and its biological. he actually thinks there are no serious skeptics or moral relativists, you can discuss it but you wouldnt survive. with morals there are a range of options that exist, but there are limits within the range based on genetics. he compares it to how the sight system partly develops environmentally or language. he says there are ethical norms which vary widely. i think in one video chomsky completely dismisses associations it has with god. id be interested in what cornel west says (although hes a christian) i couldnt find anything in short videos or on google, and chris hedges. [/QUOTE]

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