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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4695898" data-attributes="member: 56035"><p>Steve Skrovan: Yeah, before we get to the body of that show, we're going to start off today with some commentary about the news about Pfizer and Moderna, how their highly successful COVID-19 vaccine tests came in. And this seems like very positive news. But let's pause for a moment and take a closer look. What do you think, Ralph?</p><p></p><p>Ralph Nader: Well, it was a press release by the two drug companies puffing up their vaccine without releasing any data. And it pushed up Pfizer's stock a little bit and then it fell back. But the physicians at the Health Research Group [HRG] of Public Citizen criticized it on their website. You can go see it; it's pretty brief [at] citizen.org. And they criticized it, not only because there wasn't any data behind a puffing 95% assertion, but they didn't distinguish between moderate cases, serious cases, and how much actually it prevented hospitalization and fatalities. So, take that 95% with a grain of salt as just advertising puffing by two drug companies.</p><p></p><p>It's unfortunate that most of the media, Steve and David, just swallowed it whole and kept repeating it and repeating it, repeating it uncritically even though Public Citizen sent their statement out [to] everybody in the media and it didn't make much difference except it was pointed out in the Wall Street Journal and a couple other publications.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Steve Skrovan: And I did notice that Sanjay Gupta, CNN did say, “Well, we haven't seen the data yet.” He did mention that but it wasn't really something I don't think would land because we're in the land of wishful thinking now and we just all want it to be so true.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://ralphnaderradiohour.com/gerrymandering-victory-ax-the-max/[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 4695898, member: 56035"] Steve Skrovan: Yeah, before we get to the body of that show, we're going to start off today with some commentary about the news about Pfizer and Moderna, how their highly successful COVID-19 vaccine tests came in. And this seems like very positive news. But let's pause for a moment and take a closer look. What do you think, Ralph? Ralph Nader: Well, it was a press release by the two drug companies puffing up their vaccine without releasing any data. And it pushed up Pfizer's stock a little bit and then it fell back. But the physicians at the Health Research Group [HRG] of Public Citizen criticized it on their website. You can go see it; it's pretty brief [at] citizen.org. And they criticized it, not only because there wasn't any data behind a puffing 95% assertion, but they didn't distinguish between moderate cases, serious cases, and how much actually it prevented hospitalization and fatalities. So, take that 95% with a grain of salt as just advertising puffing by two drug companies. It's unfortunate that most of the media, Steve and David, just swallowed it whole and kept repeating it and repeating it, repeating it uncritically even though Public Citizen sent their statement out [to] everybody in the media and it didn't make much difference except it was pointed out in the Wall Street Journal and a couple other publications. Steve Skrovan: And I did notice that Sanjay Gupta, CNN did say, “Well, we haven't seen the data yet.” He did mention that but it wasn't really something I don't think would land because we're in the land of wishful thinking now and we just all want it to be so true. [URL unfurl="true"]https://ralphnaderradiohour.com/gerrymandering-victory-ax-the-max/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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