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<blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4806335" data-attributes="member: 63706"><p>Fire? How very pro dictatorial, corporatist of you. I guess you must be coming around to the capitalist view point. Congratulations.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I realize that you don't understand the false equivalence you just made. Your responsibility to me, under the law, is that you not intentionally or recklessly cause me harm, it's not to keep me safe. Your first clue that your scenario didn't fit should have been the fact that you had to use the qualifier "illegally". If you cause someone harm while committing a crime, of course you are responsible. But, if I care about my safety, I am responsible to be aware that <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/group1/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="Censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> drivers like you are out there, and do my best to avoid being harmed by you.</p><p></p><p>The consequences of my failure to ensure my safety are natural, in that I will suffer the physical and financial injury. Your consequences will be judicial. If you don't harm me by your reckless, illegal action, then you may still be found culpable by virtue of breaking the law. </p><p></p><p>By visiting you, your dad did nothing that is not within his rights to do. If you believe he acted recklessly, you would still have to prove he did something to harm you. In general, the law sees viruses as a force of nature. If you tried to convict your father for his actions, then, in turn everyone on up the line would have to be convicted of passing it on. It just doesn't work that way. Sorry. </p><p></p><p>That is why you are responsible for your safety. If you feel it is unsafe to be around others, then it's on you to not be around others. Your assumption of absolute authority over other people's actions makes you exactly the dictator that you accuse everyone else of being. That's called confession by projection. </p><p></p><p>Let me put it in terms you will understand. I am offering you a red pill, but it's pointless, you know that the matrix exists, you talk about the matrix as though it is a bad thing, but you only think that because you don't think the matrix is controlling enough. You are like a combination of Cipher and Agent Smith. Your simultaneous love and hatred of the matrix has you conflicted to your very core. The only thing that keeps you somewhat on an even keep is your completely unconflicted hatred of other people's free will and rights. You could say that is your defining quality, since it is the overriding belief that allows you to hold conflicting views of the matrix.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There you go again with your pro-corporatist, anti-free speech views again. The people running this restaurant will probably only be popular with people who prefer totalitarianism, like you. Restaurants have no authority to levee fines, nor do they hold a monopoly on truth, especially when they are trying to suppress it, like that one is.</p><p></p><p>What excuses? You're not making sense. I said it's all but impossible to stay away from other people, and that doing so won't prevent the spread of viruses. Those are verifiable facts. My point about symptoms was about testing, it's not poor logic, but since you think logic has something to do with trees that have been cut down, I don't expect you to understand.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There you go with you dictatorial, pro-capitalism propaganda again. I don't get cooking advice from anyone, I get food poisoning when I eat at restaurants where they don't follow proper food prep hygiene, then I don't go to those restaurants again.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Symptoms of what? Hayfever? Why should anyone stay home because they have allergies? How do you expect people to get tested? You have to have an appointment to get tested, and nobody cares about inflating covid case numbers anymore, so you have to be really sick to get an appointment to get tested. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As much as you know. They probably had covid sweep through a couple months earlier, and obtained herd immunity naturally. All those lock downs were probably for nothing.</p><p></p><p>All that being said, I guess I owe you an apology, your dad clearly gave you covid, your ramblings are far more senseless than usual. You must be feverish. Sorry about your messed up ski season.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zubenelgenubi, post: 4806335, member: 63706"] Fire? How very pro dictatorial, corporatist of you. I guess you must be coming around to the capitalist view point. Congratulations. I realize that you don't understand the false equivalence you just made. Your responsibility to me, under the law, is that you not intentionally or recklessly cause me harm, it's not to keep me safe. Your first clue that your scenario didn't fit should have been the fact that you had to use the qualifier "illegally". If you cause someone harm while committing a crime, of course you are responsible. But, if I care about my safety, I am responsible to be aware that :censored: drivers like you are out there, and do my best to avoid being harmed by you. The consequences of my failure to ensure my safety are natural, in that I will suffer the physical and financial injury. Your consequences will be judicial. If you don't harm me by your reckless, illegal action, then you may still be found culpable by virtue of breaking the law. By visiting you, your dad did nothing that is not within his rights to do. If you believe he acted recklessly, you would still have to prove he did something to harm you. In general, the law sees viruses as a force of nature. If you tried to convict your father for his actions, then, in turn everyone on up the line would have to be convicted of passing it on. It just doesn't work that way. Sorry. That is why you are responsible for your safety. If you feel it is unsafe to be around others, then it's on you to not be around others. Your assumption of absolute authority over other people's actions makes you exactly the dictator that you accuse everyone else of being. That's called confession by projection. Let me put it in terms you will understand. I am offering you a red pill, but it's pointless, you know that the matrix exists, you talk about the matrix as though it is a bad thing, but you only think that because you don't think the matrix is controlling enough. You are like a combination of Cipher and Agent Smith. Your simultaneous love and hatred of the matrix has you conflicted to your very core. The only thing that keeps you somewhat on an even keep is your completely unconflicted hatred of other people's free will and rights. You could say that is your defining quality, since it is the overriding belief that allows you to hold conflicting views of the matrix. There you go again with your pro-corporatist, anti-free speech views again. The people running this restaurant will probably only be popular with people who prefer totalitarianism, like you. Restaurants have no authority to levee fines, nor do they hold a monopoly on truth, especially when they are trying to suppress it, like that one is. What excuses? You're not making sense. I said it's all but impossible to stay away from other people, and that doing so won't prevent the spread of viruses. Those are verifiable facts. My point about symptoms was about testing, it's not poor logic, but since you think logic has something to do with trees that have been cut down, I don't expect you to understand. There you go with you dictatorial, pro-capitalism propaganda again. I don't get cooking advice from anyone, I get food poisoning when I eat at restaurants where they don't follow proper food prep hygiene, then I don't go to those restaurants again. Symptoms of what? Hayfever? Why should anyone stay home because they have allergies? How do you expect people to get tested? You have to have an appointment to get tested, and nobody cares about inflating covid case numbers anymore, so you have to be really sick to get an appointment to get tested. As much as you know. They probably had covid sweep through a couple months earlier, and obtained herd immunity naturally. All those lock downs were probably for nothing. All that being said, I guess I owe you an apology, your dad clearly gave you covid, your ramblings are far more senseless than usual. You must be feverish. Sorry about your messed up ski season. [/QUOTE]
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