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<blockquote data-quote="rickyb" data-source="post: 4813867" data-attributes="member: 56035"><p>steve keen moved from EU to thailand for corona virus. hes born in australia and has friends there:</p><p></p><p>From my perspective of living in one of the success stories, and with friends and family in another (Australia), it comes down not to any mono-causal explanation, but to good multifaceted public policy, followed well by the public. This involved a multitude of interventions:</p><p></p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">strictly enforced lockdowns;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">strict quarantine for international arrivals, so that cases can’t be imported from overseas;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">isolation of regions, so that an outbreak in one can’t spread to another;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">effective contact tracing, so that any outbreak was limited to immediate contacts, who themselves were put into total lockdowns while being tested daily for symptoms;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">universal mask wearing, so that on two occasions, a quarantine breach in Thailand led to <em>zero</em> new cases;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">widespread availability of masks (surgical masks were distributed by the government in Thailand for the princely sum of 10 cents each—which still allowed the Thai manufacturers a 20% profit);</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">compulsory mask-wearing on public transport and in all large enclosed public venues (shopping centres, etc.);</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">bans on small venues like restaurants and bars, with financial compensation for owners and staff; and reduced utility costs; and</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">government financial support to workers and businesses, which allowed poor people to survive despite their jobs disappearing because of lockdown.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, there have been stuff-ups—Australia’s several quarantine breaches, Thailand’s outbreaks in migrant worker enclaves—but well designed, enforced and followed public policies have worked every time to bring the outbreaks back under control. These countries have done <a href="https://www.endcoronavirus.org/" target="_blank">what pandemic specialist Yaneer Bar-Yam said would work</a>—and he was right, it has worked.</p><p></p><p></p><p>When I look at what has happened in the UK in particular, I can only manage a macabre laugh. I see good friends like John Hearn whine about the impact of lockdowns on the economy (and challenge the veracity of the data as well), when what happened in the UK is better described as not a lockdown, but a “<a href="https://www.peterboroughmatters.co.uk/local-news/peterborough-matters-comment-covid-lockdown-or-mockdown-25912" target="_blank">mockdown</a>“. Reactive politicians delaying action until the outbreak forced it? Check. Tourists flying in without facing mandatory quarantine? Check. An inability to manufacture masks and other Personal Protective Equipment? Check. Mask-wearing not enforced on public transport, or virtually anywhere? Check. Huge social events allowed? Check. Restaurants opened to stimulate the economy? Check. Contact tracing that was more a handout to rich friends than a program? Check. Restrictions lifted well before zero cases were achieved, let alone sustained? Check. No wonder the UK’s numerous “lockdowns” haven’t worked. It’s had the worst of both worlds.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://braveneweurope.com/steve-keen-my-escape-from-covid-island[/URL]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="rickyb, post: 4813867, member: 56035"] steve keen moved from EU to thailand for corona virus. hes born in australia and has friends there: From my perspective of living in one of the success stories, and with friends and family in another (Australia), it comes down not to any mono-causal explanation, but to good multifaceted public policy, followed well by the public. This involved a multitude of interventions: [LIST] [*]strictly enforced lockdowns; [*]strict quarantine for international arrivals, so that cases can’t be imported from overseas; [*]isolation of regions, so that an outbreak in one can’t spread to another; [*]effective contact tracing, so that any outbreak was limited to immediate contacts, who themselves were put into total lockdowns while being tested daily for symptoms; [*]universal mask wearing, so that on two occasions, a quarantine breach in Thailand led to [I]zero[/I] new cases; [*]widespread availability of masks (surgical masks were distributed by the government in Thailand for the princely sum of 10 cents each—which still allowed the Thai manufacturers a 20% profit); [*]compulsory mask-wearing on public transport and in all large enclosed public venues (shopping centres, etc.); [*]bans on small venues like restaurants and bars, with financial compensation for owners and staff; and reduced utility costs; and [*]government financial support to workers and businesses, which allowed poor people to survive despite their jobs disappearing because of lockdown. [/LIST] Yes, there have been stuff-ups—Australia’s several quarantine breaches, Thailand’s outbreaks in migrant worker enclaves—but well designed, enforced and followed public policies have worked every time to bring the outbreaks back under control. These countries have done [URL='https://www.endcoronavirus.org/']what pandemic specialist Yaneer Bar-Yam said would work[/URL]—and he was right, it has worked. When I look at what has happened in the UK in particular, I can only manage a macabre laugh. I see good friends like John Hearn whine about the impact of lockdowns on the economy (and challenge the veracity of the data as well), when what happened in the UK is better described as not a lockdown, but a “[URL='https://www.peterboroughmatters.co.uk/local-news/peterborough-matters-comment-covid-lockdown-or-mockdown-25912']mockdown[/URL]“. Reactive politicians delaying action until the outbreak forced it? Check. Tourists flying in without facing mandatory quarantine? Check. An inability to manufacture masks and other Personal Protective Equipment? Check. Mask-wearing not enforced on public transport, or virtually anywhere? Check. Huge social events allowed? Check. Restaurants opened to stimulate the economy? Check. Contact tracing that was more a handout to rich friends than a program? Check. Restrictions lifted well before zero cases were achieved, let alone sustained? Check. No wonder the UK’s numerous “lockdowns” haven’t worked. It’s had the worst of both worlds. [URL unfurl="true"]https://braveneweurope.com/steve-keen-my-escape-from-covid-island[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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