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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zubenelgenubi" data-source="post: 4980028" data-attributes="member: 63706">I have zero faith in the stats, because there is zero reliable basis for the stats. When you look at All Cause Deaths from 2020, the numbers just aren't that much higher than what was projected based on the trend in the growth of the death rate. Approximately 25,000 more people died of all causes than were expected to die based on pre-pandemic projections. Based on that, it's not hard to defend a position that covid did not kill anyone who wasn't likely to die to begin with. And the uptick in deaths can almost entirely be accounted for by lockdown related conditions, suicide, drug overdose, etc.By comparison, Sweden's all cause deaths dropped from 2019.Talking about stats that have no reliable basis is giving unjustifiable credence to them.</blockquote>